This gives me hope. So they can improve but i have to push myself. Atm i try and say something but it comes out all jumbled and i never get to my point. This has got really bad since June with no improvement. I push through the motivation problems but no thoughts and jumbled speach. How do i push through that. Everytime i try i fail instantly.
Iām in the same boat. Negs really destroyed me. I used to walk, jog, run, lift weights and was keeping busy. Negs have improved but I still spend most of my time on the couch.
It takes a longer time to recover from negatives than positives. Remember that!
Is it possible to recover though as everywhere i search its the same ive had them decades and they have ruined my life. People who work on them for years still have them.
Have yoh had any success in them getting better or know anyone
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I was almost catatonic. I couldnāt even keep my head up when sitting. At least now I can function somewhat. It took several years, after finding the right meds, before I made some progress.
Which meds are you on and what have you tried?
You write very eloquently, @Jay89 .
Try this: first write, then read aloud your own words. Use pen and paper if possible. Itās what I also do (I journal).
Thats because when i write a line i can re read it to remind myself what i said. If i said that in convo id forget what i was saying.
So reading aloud what you say helps get better? Neuroplasticity?
Abilify. Dont antipsychotics lower dopamine so it makes negs worser
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Yes, they lower dopamine. But abilify also raises dopamine in some parts of the brain.
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How have your negs improved? Are you productive?
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I clean my home, I take showers. Iām able to be social. I listen to music.
I donāt work if thatās what you are asking?
Before I was just lying on the couch doing nothing. I couldnāt do sh-it. My mom had to visit and help me.
Iām on olanzapine and vraylar. Iām hoping to recover some more so I can ditch olanzapine.
Abilify gave me incredible akathisia.
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Just to be social is what i need and to be able to think without my thoughts dissappearing.
Id be happy then
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I also did some soul searching and digged up hidden grudges against dad or other people. Going back years, even decades. I talked it through with those people, occasionally lashed out too. Eventually it helped me feel better. Bottled up feelings can be dangerous.
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Iāve been way down. Iāve had periods where I didnāt really have an internal monologue or thoughts. I remember going to day treatment and not being able to write anything of substance in my journal cause I couldnāt think. It was scary, but got way better. A lot of it was time. Also semi recently got on a different med and the voices went away and everything improved. Things Can and do change. Idk about your case but Iāve been through a lot and things have gotten better than I thought they would.
Thanks it gives me hope you got better. So it was all down to time and you didnt do anything
Well the thinking thing was after my drug induced psychosis. But yeah it was time. i didnāt change anything med wise and things still improved. The recent biggest improvement came from switching from invega to perphenazine. My point though is that things change. If you have a day program near you Iād recommend trying to go. Just being around other people and people with mental illness can help change things in ways you couldnāt have predicted. But Iāve also improved and things have changed a lot in the 21 years with schizophrenia. Early on I thought that this is just how itās gonna be. Things do change though.
know how hard it is, Iāve been with sz for 2.5 years and Iām waiting for the negativity and cognitive to decrease, what Iām going to tell you is, push yourself a little more to do things, something good will come out of it, remember
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How long did it take for the negs to improve for you?
Have they improved for you or just stayed the same?
I was coming off drugs and my psychosis lasted years. It took a couple good years of remission to feel fine again. For me though Iām better even than I was before I ever did drugs and just had schizophrenia.