Help! How do you know you're really sz?

Hi, sorry to go back to this, but I’m finding it impossible to accept my diagnosis of undifferentiated squizophrenia, my so-called symptoms are simply not serious enough to merit all the ghastly labeling involved. Several doctors have agreed on the diagnosis, but their arguments remain unconvincing -particularly the catch-22 “insight” argument, if you believe yourself to be sane you’re actually insane). I have “strange” ideas, but who hasn’t? I don’t hear voices, and, except for apathy (probably the afteraffect of my depression) and staying in bed most of the day I am highly functional and even crack jokes about my (non-existent) condition. I am at the end of my tethers with this. Any suggestion or advice would be welcome.

I am also diagnosed with undifferentiated schizophrenia. Maybe you can’t accept it yet

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schizophrenia is still pretty rare

so I wouldn’t say we are like most people

I know in the beginning I didn’t want to believe

I was any different, but over the years, that’s proven otherwise.

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Apparently I had been schizotypal for decades before 2018. And OCD. I would imagine -not believe- myself surrounded by supernatural beings guiding my actions. Jesus would speak from the cross, but in the last moment I’d discover that his face had morphed into that of the devil, so that meant I had to change track. Other times I’d wait for the right entity to guide my arms. And tons of trivia like this, a little eccentric perhaps, but I never believed it was completely real. Oddly enough, since my “crisis” I no longer suffer from OCD, for which I’m grateful. I guess I’ve had minor psychotic experiences, even episodes, but even “normal people” get that sometimes, plus my cosmological speculations. Self-disorder definitely, but that could be anxiety. I’m also racked with guilt, which my Lutheran doctors (I was raised Catholic) believe to be excessive. I couldn’t disagree more, we could all feel guiltier than we do.

I’m still hoping that they’ll change their minds.

Logically pick apart your ideas. An alien race would likely have to be a Kardashev II or higher civilization to cross the distances from where they live to Earth. That’s the amount of energy involved. Would they REALLY use up the equivalent of a sun just to come to our planet to stick implants in and anal probe little old me? I like to think I’m important, but I’m not THAT important.

My delusions and hallucinations have no basis in reality. They’re just bad SF playing out in my head and I have learned to ignore it.

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I was diagnosed schizotypal before schizophrenia

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mine’s been paranoid type since the beginning

I think it’s one of the more typical ones

yeah, I hope they change their minds too

you could always get a second opinion somewhere else.

Science refuting sci-fi! I’m not sure that Carl Sagan would feel comfortable with that. :wink: That said, my so-called “funny ideas” are well grounded in philosophy and personal experience. Solipsism is a common theme, but I believe I cracked it via a re-examination of Putnam’s contention on semantic internalism.

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I did, and he agreed with the other doctors. :disappointed_relieved:

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I was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. I had zero insight at that moment. As time goes by the pieces of the puzzle start to get together. I don’t believe it’s something you can just understand, accept or know.

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Maybe that’s their medical version of saying “I dunno”. But sometimes you have to keep talking about your symptoms for them to get a better idea of who you are, and what you are experiencing.

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For me it was easy. I was hearing voices, i had delusions and i jumped from hospital first floor(i broke an arm) so it was easy to diagnose me. This is all i know. I have paranoid schizophrenia

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I’m not schizophrenic either.

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Denial is the first step towards enlightenment. :grinning:

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