I’m curious if anyone else thinks people use depression and anxiety too much as a crutch or excuse. In my generation, I see it almost as a fad of victimization much like many other things in our culture. When Simone Biles used anxiety to escape the Tokyo Olympics, I thought the fad reached a nexus point with oppression. And the stigma only gets worse the longer people perpetuate this attitude of quitting in life because you have some anxiety. There are a lot of people who cannot afford to quit their job because of mental health; whether it’s because they’re taking care of their family, or helping a parent. This is also applicable at times to people with severe mental illness, but I have more compassion on them if they’re doing the things they are supposed to do.
This is in connection with my other thread.
I guess my issue is feeling like victims to an unknown entity or cultural ideal. I feel like a lot of people could benefit from losing themselves in the service of others, and this in turn creates a point of losing their self to benefit others, thereby ignoring the self and instead focusing on others and their well-being.
When i had a panic attack while driving, i thought i was physically dying (i didn’t know it was a panic attack). It lead me to not drive for quite awhile and use friends and clubhouse staff for rides. Once i found out it was anxiety-based i was able to fight it, but at first i had no idea that anxiety could be so serious…but, that said, i definitely believe that some people use their mental illness as a crutch or a way to get out of stuff. Even to the level of malingering…
I think this is all very unempathic, uncaring and self indulgence at its worst?
I thought maybe op would be more consideration to other people’s feelings
I completely disagree with this line of thought
Many of us here start off with moderate mh issues which later became severe and debilitating. Have some respect for each others disabilities instead of this heresay
It’s not uncaring at all. It’s a very real phenomena that happens in our culture of victimization and perceived oppression. I’m not saying their struggles aren’t real, but you can’t use it as an excuse to limp through life.
Um, people are allowed to have opinions that diverge from your own. I have seen too many instances of people using mental health as an excuse for not putting their best food forward and this does create stigma for others.
The fact that you do not like a contrary opinion is not his problem or mine.
Maybe for some people, but depression and anxiety can be, and sometimes are, debilitating. I don’t know who’s faking and who’s not, so I take everyone at their word. I think it’s better to err on the side of caution.
Simone Biles had an equilibrium problem in Tokyo. She’s arguably the greatest female gymnast of all time (just won gold in Paris). I find it hilarious that you’re criticizing Simone Biles.
You’re painting with a broad brush.
You’re creating a Purity test that you couldn’t pass yourself.
In a perfect world the meds would work, there would be no crippling side-effects, and we’d all get the supports we need. In reality, the meds are crap even when they work, supports are mostly non-existent unless you are really frickin’ lucky, and we end up being our own support system(s).
if I come across as blunt, it’s because I am a realist. I see too many people leaving money on the table in terms of recovery and quality of life. Yeah, you’ve got crippling anxiety, but life is going to be even more crippling if you don’t stare that ■■■■■■■ down and push past it. So fight for your life, because the odds are no one else will do it for you.
I fought for over a decade working working until i got dragged to the psych ward again and again and heavily medicated where i was a zombie asleep for years. Im lucky hubby never left me and now im barely coping day to day.
Trust me im a fighter and i battle as hard as i can
I completely understand that not everyone will get to the same place. I just want to see people get to a better place than they’re in now if it is possible. We SZs deserve nice things and nice lives and the same love and care those without this illness do.
Who said I haven’t lost myself in the service of others. It was nothing like a purity test that has all too much cohabitation in society. I would agree that I’m not perfect at life and service, but the only test we need to pass is attempting to be charitable with our best efforts and volition.
Fighting hard to keep a roof over there head, food on the table
Schizophrenics have to also walk on egg shells more than most to not upset people and family
And sz try to keep a bit of normacy despite chaos in the mind
Science can already see brain differences abnormalities in people with personality disorders and schizophrenia etc. Its real man!
