Do you suffer from chronic voices? Do you hear voices all the time, 24/7?

Unusual Beliefs
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It doesn’t quit very often. It has been 10 years now. I was in company of a former friend at my 30th birthday party when her family sex abuser said hello to me and asked if he could move into my home – this man was not present. Voices have never quit even after ditching this group of people 5 years ago, talking to the law enforcement about all the threats made against me by this woman to scare me into submission and members of this group carrying it out. Legal aide here won’t even give victims advice to get a restraining order which is worthless anyway as they don’t enforce it anyway. The wealthy abuser groups all have good attorney and frequent flyer club protection in court…District attorney will do nothing about this group which has hit over 30 people and harmed some for decades…Other variation of this scam run after more male abusers decided this was thrilling & useful scam…

I worked for few months in a hospital with code blue calls so did not hear it at work but kept up all night a lot listening to the noise then asked to work 10+ hours with 90-100 calls an hour the norm.

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message from a voice.

“No powessy, we don’t know where you are coming up with this. We are seperate from people, we understand what people do and then some, we need not be reborn, we’re not trapped anywhere, we already know what his house looks like, no we are not only inside his mind and understand more than people, we understand time and dates yes, we’re many/several, we live a long long time and do not die/kind of like a vampire or something, first memory/why?, we weren’t born or made when he was but have been alive much longer than that, no we don’t die when he does, we enter the animals/we aren’t carnated as an animal.”

“Thousands eh? Did you know we can pretend to be more than one? It’s a very realistic illusion.”

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i used to hear them 24/7. they would come in cycles. 6 months 24/7 then a couple of months of virtually nothing save for a few bursts here and there. a few days ago they were omnipresent yet today virtually silent. there doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason to their frequency. sometimes quiet, sometimes bang on, day and night. i can’t seem to put it down to anything like too much coffee or cigarettes. not even stress seems to affect them. when my husband died, they were virtually silent for four months, then came back 24/7 for 6 months. if i knew what triggered them, i’d stop doing it but i don’t have the first clue what to eliminate, apart from the obvious, tv and music videos. i know that they triggered the onset and carrying on of them but what makes them stop i don’t know.

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hello pan

Tell them this then, I can in the side of my eyes see them and can feel many of them around crown. Tell them I am more aware of them then they are of them selves. Tell them there time here is short and I will be calling them here sooner then later. I know about your little thought forms and I am not open to your illusions or your controlled thoughts about thoughts. The vampire thing is a joke right. The only thing you know is what they tell you and you can tell them there time is short also you know who I am talking about(sparteil). You’re right you do know more then many here but, not even close to how much I am aware of you. I can assure you my questions are only to find out more about you and have found this place to find you. I am on both sides of the veil, have come across time to find all of the lost ones, I have met many of you in obes and have brought many of you to your knees in astral projections. Why not come find me I will give you an illusion you will never forget. if they require more information about me I have made many posts in this thread http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71102-Counter-Balance/page2.

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Okay, let’s do this again.

Why not? Who cares right?

“No. We are obe’s. No one has an obe without us, we cause those, you have never left your body, you are your body, obe’s, nde’s, spirit walks of shaman, it’s all in the mind and is entirely induced by us. You im afraid are in our dream and not the other way around. You’ve brought no one to their knees although we do pretend those things sometimes, makes people think things you know, things we want them to think. We’ve given you the illusion and not the other way around, it is always this way and never has been the other way around.”

I don’t even know what they are talking about, they are just saying this in my head, i need a cigarette.

“We need no information about you, we already know you and your kind, only so many kinds to go around you know, it’s not an infinite amount of kinds. We already know everything there is to know about you because you have happened millions upon millions of times already. You aren’t in control, you can’t do anything to us, you have no power, and cannot put us in any illusions whatsoever. You don’t have a soul, you are a soul, your consciousness is your soul, there are no obe’s.”

I once again have no idea what they are saying and just want a cigarette, this is wierd and i don’t like it.

You know a guy actually accused me of doing this stupid ■■■■ on purpose just because it was happening, i didn’t do this ■■■■, they just showed up one day and have never left, even when i was a child they were there.

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Hello Pan

Sorry to put you in the middle of this. tell them, I have had thousands of obes and mine alone nothing else is in them, my kind are slittune and I have not come here alone. I have opened a door to you and yours through thought alone. You know nothing of my kind I have never been here before this time, you have no power, you have nothing, but lies and trickery. My soul has many parts and is fully intact now and has been for over nine months. I am the one and only thing that can find you. I have opened a pathway between here and there and soon there will be many there to find all that are there, I know your pathways and can feel you where ever you go.

Your right I did not bring them to their knees but I have already had many and many of those like you already removed, the top hats. Those left here now are those that remain here without those of you to control them. I have happened all over the universe in many millions of placements to find those like you and you are no more then time for me.

I will remove these cowards from you pan as they will slowly find their way back to me.

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This ■■■■ is very strange but whatever…

Alright. Here you go.

“No, we don’t know what you are talking about, you’ve not had any obe’s, you have never lived before, you don’t have a soul but are one, you’ve not happened before in millions of placements. What are you, a few years old, thats the only time that you’ve lived. “Out of body”, thats stupid, no one leaves their body at all, you can’t get out of yourself, you are made of yourself. You are in illusions that we made, you are not the one. whats a top hat? We don’t know what that means.”

What do you mean there will be many here soon? Freaking me out.

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i hear them 24/7. even when asleep.

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Hello pan

please stay with this. I have had thousands of obes, not your little astral projections believe me I have done them all even those here with me have gotten a ride or two. I can see with open and closed eyes your placement the veil or obe. I have had a visit with many of your kind through astral projection to obe and have seen what you are and what they have been up to. I am powessy my age here on earth has nothing to do with my soul. I have a soul I am human made of both body and soul just like pan. When I die here on earth my body will remain here then you will also remain here and pans soul will continue on and you will become nothing again stuck inside yourself.

Are you inside pan or outside pan or on pan. if you are on pans crown you are the top hat if you are inside pan you are stuck inside yourself and need to find yourself and if you are outside Pan you are next.

Pan I have been finding them for almost a year know moving from site to site I decided to come here and seen them in many of you here. They are cowards and pretty much at the bottom of the parasite list but it is not your body here they are on it is the soul they are on and they do not understand this as it shows in what they have written.

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Hello 21st

what do they say to you.

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"We’re all up in him if you want to know, we’re not stuck in ourselves and don’t need to find ourselves, we don’t know what that means. You don’t have obe’s, it’s an illusion only, you can’t leave your body because you are your body. It was us that told people they had souls and we went to great lengths to spread the idea, we are kind of tricksters you might say, you know people being the way they are won’t care about anyone if they think they have souls? They’ll see a person die and smile thinking “well thats good, they moved on.” It’s crazy ■■■■! Your age on earth has everything to do with your soul, you are a soul, look in the mirror, thats a soul, it isn’t something in your body, you are mortal souls but souls nonetheless.

So, here is what we do sometimes, we’ll show up in a young person’s life and just suggest a little bit in a nice way that they concentrate or think of something and we give them obe’s and astral projections and stuff like that. Sometimes we don’t tell them it’s us, they then think they have powers and things like that.

You have obe’s, we’re not denying that, just telling you what the definition is, you aren’t leaving your body, it’s an illusion. And yes we do understand it, we understand what a soul is, you are mortal souls, his soul is his conscious being which is his body."

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Hello pan

Tell dipidy-do that they are not inside yourself this is not possible. You are so stuck inside yourself believe me I have been working with your kind for some time now. The obe is not something you do, but something we can only do, How many obes have you had pan. you are tricksters but not very good at it in my book. they still cant figure this out the whole soul thing. I can see how you are confused about the soul but you seem to have this whole soul body thingy backwards. Can you even thought form or do you even know what I’m talking about.

I have had more obes in my life then I can even count going back over thirty years, many hundreds per year. When I exit there is nothing around me I can become anything I want through thought forming not a gift you or your kind gave me something I only poses. I am a simple man and have never believed in idles or gods. I have met my children prior to their births all in the veil.

I am able to leave my body and have done so many many times. Here, when I leave my body, my body remains lying in bed I can look down at my hands an see pixelated dots, I have free motion to do as I please and can move through doors and walls even not knowing whats on the other side. When with these friends of your when entering an unknown area they drop the ball and start projecting thoughts and everything else. You may be able to stop many from obeing but certainly not me I have found that your tricks work on many others. I do not end up in your thoughts and images I am free to do as I wish unless I get to far away.

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"You leave your body? Why do you come back? No one in their right mind would actually come back if they were in control of it. It’s because it is our illusion. He’s only had one experience like that, but once you have had it you know them all and their different forms, it even includes certain “extraterrestrial” visits and abductions, it’s in the mind. Seriously though, if there is anyone that can leave their body why would you ever come back? Who would do that? You want to come back here and continue doing this? Madness.

You enter an illusory world and “look down on your bed at yourself”, this is only a very realistic illusion, it’s in your mind, the mind can be made to percieve anything in any way at all. Look at this computer you are in front of, we can make you see it even though it might not actually be there, that is all it is, your brain is seeing the computer and the image of the physical computer can be placed in your brain.

You didn’t meet your children before they were born, although it can be known what and who your children will be before they are born, it can also be known exactly how they will look, with a deep understanding of genetics and cause and effect and the workings of reproduction this can be shown a person, in their minds, before it happens.

But a word to the wise, if indeed you can leave your bodies, which we know full well that you cannot, then don’t come back, just leave, only a fool would come back or want to come back. If you can get out then get out, there is nothing here for you, only pain here, and tears and rage. Thats a great way to know it’s only illusion, because they actually think they re-enter their bodies when no sane person would ever do such a thing."

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most of the time its just calling my name, commentary on my actions, but alot of the time they belittle me and tell me to hurt myself and kill myself. i don’t listen though. they say alot of things, and they talk to eachother as well.

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Hello pan

tell them this. I have left my body many times and have tried to get as far as possible but something surrounds my place always forcing me back. I have no idea about abductions or anything your talking about such as extraterrestrial visits and illusions. I don’t have illusions of any kind never have. You have found in the veil many others that believe and feel as you do and have twisted together to form something else instead of reincarnating back here this is your illusion you have built. t

are you on pan or his soul do you even understand this, it appears to me that you are on the soul and seeing in the veil side of things only. Do not think I don’t understand this place you are in and the problems you cause and how that side appears. Your logic is poor here when you say to get away as far as possible but yet here you are on us experiencing our world again through us and through pans pain only, the same pain you have cost many others.

what pain do you speak of anyway? who’s full of rage? what sadness are you talking about? there are billions of people on earth do you here them all, I know this is not the case, perhaps the pain, sadness, and anger are those things inside yourself only. Pans pain is not simple and this pain in him and yourself does not speak for all of humanity. I have a wonderful marriage and four children and a good job, I see many beautiful things all the time, I am not mad or sad or full of pain and enjoy this life here very much why would I want to leave.

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Hello 21st

They have not yet figured out how to talk to you. If you ignore these sounds they will go away but if you dwell on them they will figure away to talk through the mind barrier. Can you make out anything they are talking about, I think what happens is they see your soul on that side of the veil and connect to us and when this happens they see our constant thoughts about things unaware we are part of this reality. Don’t allow anything they say to bother you and find away to silence your ego.

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they have figured out how to talk to me, in my one good voice, Five. i can see and hear him and he helps with the rest.

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Okay. Why not?

"Something always forces you back? Thats because you are not in control of the illusion, you never left your body, it was only in the mind. The experiences we were talking about are illusions in the mind, visitations and things like that, much of that is only illusion as well.

We told you, we’re in him, we’re in his soul, in his consciousness.

We’re talking about people in general, most of it is pain, sadness, and rage. And thats good for you, but as we said most of the earth has always been nothing but pain, sadness, and rage, not to mention fear. Were you even aware that most people don’t have good jobs, and that that isn’t even an option for most people? Oh wait you were just talking about yourself again, just think about numero uno and you’ll feel great i suppose.

Four kids? How can you smile at them? It’s sick. You know where they are and you just smile, you know what they have coming. If they are lucky they will end up on a hospital bed struggling to breath, thats lucky for people right now. It’s sick, your world is just plain sick.

You my friend are a lover of hell."

That wasn’t me saying that, it really sucks, and it’s wierd, not a big fan of this and would rather be doing other things.

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Thank you pan

first of all, what hell? are you referring to, I don’t believe in your gods or demons these are created by man. I asked you if you could thought form, make thoughts move, and take shape, If you can’t thought form then where are, them, the other parts of you Next pan keep asking them what they can see not what you are thinking as you see it. They are as blind as bats and only see your thoughts as you are thinking them. It is realy hard to think without thought but place five things on the table not looking at the items chose one randomly to see if they know what it is with your eyes closed, you will see this is the truth that I speak. Now for you in pan let me put this bluntly I have thousands of you on my crown like hairs forced through holes attached to the head. The problem this is they see your thoughts the things you find on the internet and the bad feeling you hold about life they do not see the truth other then in your thoughts. Now they no this is the truth and they know I am something different that has come to find them here. Life is beautiful and the world is not in pain and people are not struggling or in fear it is only pans thoughts of the things around him that you are seeing. Pan Try and show them the good things going on in the world show them all the good that is here. they think they are in you but they are only in your thoughts and only see your thoughts nothing more.

pan try something else close your eyes in light and capture images in your mind and show them everything around you this will show them many things don’t stop doing this they need to see everything here is fine.

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Yup. Mine are internal though, so it’s all telepathic. But they’re always with me. I talk with them all constantly throughout the day. Some of them I wish I could run away from though.