Do you consider yourself a loser? Or not? Why?

I don’t see people as losers as such.

Or maybe if you are stuck up and put people down to make yourself feel better and torturing animals and people and nature.

I don’t think someone is a loser because they are mentally I’ll or don’t work etc I think it has to do with how you treat other people, animals and the world and yourself in a way.

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Don’t call yourself a loser. Everyone that hates you is an ■■■■■■■ and a loser. Half of people are fake that pretend whatever they want about people. If all the ■■■■■■■■ had to deal with your or my mental illness for 1 day they’d probably cry about it. That’s how I look at it.

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Hell no, I don’t see myself as a loser.

You have to be a super shitty person in my book to be considered a loser.

Like be in federal prison for molesting children or something F’ed up like that.

But I believe even the scum of the earth have a right to live. They just don’t have the right to murder or hurt people.

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They have the right to live and I will state the obvious but they do not have the right to their freedom…ever. Some parole boards seem f’d up when they let rapists and child molester go.

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I consider myself a loser.

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Right on sacred.

Well said.

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I agree Skunkalish.

Sorry if I didn’t clarify your point.

:dove:

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A month and a half ago I was convinced I was the biggest loser on the planet. The only thing that’s different today is I’m convinced I’m a winner who hasn’t won yet. My day will come, but it won’t if I give up.

Self-talk is important. Let’s lift ourselves and each other up, legends.

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In my opinion, having some peace of mind is winning.

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I would consider myself a loser when I was a NEET from the middle of last year until I went back to take a couple classes and job a part time job. All that matters is that you are consistent. I couldn’t have done this without stopping psych meds altogether. The side effects were so bad I resorted to using cough syrup to feel something which I am still recovering from the serotonin syndrome it caused. Now I am using the time for introspection to write about childhood trauma with the Self Authoring suite. My Mother being cold and abandoning me made me distrustful/paranoid and unable to accept love from a young age.

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I do feel like a loser most days and I keep doing stuff to mess up important interpersonal relationships at school and at work.

And family

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I would consider I’d lost at life if I was locked up for misbehaving. I can have self hate and also self love. My self hatred can be bad considering my voice is a divinity, I’d rather make a rock my higher power. I have more than others, my guitar and mandolin. I should try and find some way to give to others who have less. My self hatred is nothing but lunacy it has no basis in reality.

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It most definitely is winning!

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These things come from somewhere. Think of why you hate yourself and forgive yourself. Self-hatred can destroy you.

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I feel like a loser sometimes. I’m really not though. I wish I wasn’t a massage therapist for work. I have a four year degree I used for eight years. I wish I used it still. I’d be more proud of myself. Me being mentally ill got in the way of that.

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Also, I only have some friends. I wish I had more. My mental illness made it hard for me to make and keep friends.

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Same. I mean, I only consider myself half a loser… I’ve made poor choices and I have this illness… but also I have baby human… and friends… and a husband. So I’m also half winner.

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I think people made me think I’m a loser and I really wanted to live a normal life but people will exclude people from society

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I was admitted to psych hospital for the 1st time at the start of what should’ve been the term I did my A levels. That being the exams that got you a uni place,depending on how well you did.
I’ve had one non bricks and mortar attempt at studying for a qualification since then. That was back in late 1975-early 1976.It was too early to do so.

I have mixed emotions about not going to uni . Pleased for those who have vs jealous. An inferior loser vs actually a lot more intelligent than the average uni student . Couldn’t be helped vs I should’ve coped with the bullying better.I have long periods of thinking I’m an utter fraud, and that that will become evident the more a person gets to know me.

I’m acutely aware that compared to the average person nowadays I 'm educationally poorly qualified. I do a lot of tests to try and convince myself I’m not totally useless and stupid, but it’s like putting a self melting band-aid over a gaping wound . I can be presented with evidence time and time again that I’m far from stupid, but my mind rejects it time and time again in a ‘but am I really?’ kind of way. Imposter syndrome plays a rather large part in that . If I fail at something I’m all kinds of utterly useless. If I do well at something it’s because lots of other people could do well at it.

Although the bullying was bad. I never placed it as a ‘traumatic event’. For me that was things like physical and sexual abuse or the effects of military action on soldiers. It’s been something I’ve talked about online on forums such as this and social media, but until recently not face to face with a MH pro. When I mentioned being very avoidant re attempts to get me to do a college course my care coordinator responded instantly by saying ‘bullying related trauma’

It’s definitely had a long term,deleterious, effect on my self confidence/esteem/worth. People read or hear the vehement denial when someone says something negative about me . Inside though I’m mentally self whipping myself, taking all those criticisms to heart , thinking I’m a no good worthless piece of s***.

By any conventional/standard of success I’m without doubt a loser. In 2 months I start getting the State pension without ever having had a paid job. I have family and step family, but no social circle outside of that. I’ve only seen one member of my birth family since moving here. That was my father back in October 2018. He’s 92 and lives in the States. We don’t regularly exchange calls and emails. It’s the same when it comes to my interacting with my sister. I do have regular email contact with my brother.

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No, I try my hardest despite having this stupid disease.

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