Do you believe your voices have consciousness

Unusual Beliefs
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That’s the question that gets me in a thought loop where I’m like if they do have their own minds which they seem to then they must be real.

Like somebody else said my internal presence can feel and smell and see what I do and even emotionally feel what I do.

Once when 2 of them were conversing about me one told the other “I think he likes me because he was talking to me earlier” they were both female by the way and the said “did you use emotion?” like it’s a ability they turn on and off.

They read my mind and switch on “emotion” to feel what I’m feeling.

I’m pretty balanced now so I know they aren’t real.

But another thing that throws me off is people saying theirs sound like demons while mine sound people usually people I’ve heard like neighbors.

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I’m not convinced, but thanks for the post. In my book, I see more evidence my entities are self aware than you. They are psychopaths, but self aware nonetheless.

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Yes, just the other day they began telling me the cards that would come up in a poker game my family was playing.

And they were right repeatedly.

They also began saying significant cards.

Damn this is really ■■■■■■■ shitty.

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Everything has consciousness, even atoms, how can atoms have consciousness but not the voices I hear that are more real to me than atoms? I don’t get it, this is so messed up!

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Whilst I’m sick then yes, they seem like voices coming from a communal spiritual realm but when well, on checking whether my friends or family actually think what the voices imply, they are always wrong luckily. Schizophrenia is a misleading illness…

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just because they have self awareness or are self aware doesn’t mean they don’t come from your mind. look at multiple personality disorder as opposed to voice hearers. the only differences in them is that voice hearers are aware of multiple other personalities whereas true multiple personality sufferers do not integrate to that level so that they have cognitive access to their alters. some people actually suffer from both and have a unique perspective on both disorders. i know this because i suffer with both. this is how i know that in my case especially, my voices are not real people but merely a byproduct of abuse.

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You should go to Vegas :grinning:

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" Do you believe YOUR voices have consciousness "

My point view
1-this is irrational question because it is contain 2 mistakes
a-the schizophrenic does not hears his own voices,so that you should re-write the question as following: do you believe that the audible voices have independent consciousness ?

b-The lingual Voice is a communication method way between 2 higher organisms,that is to say the voice is an expression means and is not a alive higher organism,while the consciousness is the higher state of the higher organism like the human being,it is the whole inner entity for any one of us ,a perception of the ego,own existence and external existence of things around us ,it is what you are

c-in other words,the voice have not consciousness because it is physical waves"matter",while the consciousness is a higher organism have the ability to communicate with other through the vocal bilateral lingual dialogue

d-the conscious entity uses the voice ,while the voice can not uses the consciousness

e-any schizophrenic person must feels that,there are an inner communication between hidden speakers and his own human conscious state,real bilateral lingual dialogue ,and this dialogue is happens through new vocal way

the question;is in our world /nature a higher organisms “non-human” have the ability to using the human language to make an inner communication with the conscious state of the human beings ?
-any schizophrenic person have the evidence which prove the possibility on the individual level only,but all current scientific means are not fit to hearing these inner voices

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No, because I don’t believe they are real. If they were others would hear them. Others would react to them, not just me. If they were real to me, they would affect my personal surroundings like when push comes to shove I’ll sometimes tell the voice if you are real, turn the light on…(or off if it’s already on) and if nothing happens then they can’t be real. It’s in my head. While it’s not me thinking the thoughts it’s not a real entity either. It’s not me because I can’t control the thoughts. I can tell them to shut up and go away but most of the time they don’t.

To me having a conscious is someone who can determine right from wrong, and determine how to react giving what they know. I cannot say exactly what they are, if they’re you’re own subconscious coming out at you and you can’t control it, or what but I don’t they have a conscious, if they did they’re purely evil beings because of the horrible things they tell me or try and get me to do to myself. But they are not my own thoughts because I wouldn’t want to say these things to myself half the time because it’s too upsetting to hear.

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The voices are “self concious,” they are the fragmented compartmentalized parts of ones own psyche. They are different aspects of the unconcious projected as an other.

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@sohare1981
To prove that the voice is real or unreal,the question:
Do you hear the voice ?
-If you say " yes"
This means that,the voice is real regard your self ,and ignore that
the people around you can not hear any voices " they are not a part from
your individual experience or your individual perception
-Even all scientific tools can not observe these voices

Instead,ask your self this question;
why the people around you can not hear these voices ?
why the vocal waves are hidden to the ears of all people around you ?

It is illogical to believe that the voice is unreal because you hear the voice while the people hear not them,
=If you perceive your own thoughts while they are running in your head,and the people around you can not perceive these thoughts inside your head during its occurrence,
Hence,why you do not believe that your thoughts is not real ?

In reality you do not hear the voice,but you perceive the voice as you perceive your own thoughts,feelings,memories events and your body parts

You perceive the voices as vocal audible thoughts ,they are emitted through your mind-brain like the emission of your thoughts /feelings and memories ,they are not audible physical voices at all,they are real event although all people around you can not hear them

You should know,if the people can hear the voices that be heard by the schizophrenic persons,then there is no schizophrenia ,because it is becomes general condition, all people of the world have become schizophrenics ,
wherever anyone of us can hear the thoughts of any other person and touch his inner feelings…and this damage our personal life ,the personal confidentiality of the human being are disappear

but there is another question related the ID of the voice source;
it is understood that,the voices emergence in the mind-brain of the person,or arise from the mind-brain or has coming from the mind-brain,the questions;

1- Is the voices is the production of the own mind-brain of the person?
we meant,is the person hears his thoughts ?

  • Answer
    2-Is the voices is the production of actual human beings who living in the
    environment of the schizophrenic ?
    we meant,is the person hears the voices " thoughts" of other actual human beings?
    -Answer
    3- Is the voice is an inner communication way between a hidden metaphysical creatures and the mind-brain of the schizophrenic ?
    we meant, is the person in a case of bilateral communication with hidden metaphysical entities ?
    -Answer
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@abat, I’m not getting into this with you again. I’m not answering you’re questions. I gave my answer to the first question on the thread, and that is simply how I feel on the subject.

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Off-topic.

@jaynebeal, i like your new avatar. Is that you? You should post it in one of the pic threads.

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thanks mal. yes that’s me. i don’t know how to post it in the pic threads??? my daughter put this up for me because everyone on here it seemed had a pic at one time or another except me lol. i’m a bit illiterate on computers i’m afraid.

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You’re a definite babe. :thumbsup:

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