Do you believe schizo may be karmic?

Maybe karma… I used to be a sadistic little ■■■■■■■ when I was a young child at least when it came to killing bugs… Seems like payback when you are as insignificant as a bug to someone else…

No, not karmic in the least.

It’s really not im afraid.

Like becca on youtube, she had a dark one there with her tormenting her about her family getting hurt, it terrified her badly and she left barefoot in the middle of the night to save them.

It’s not karma, it’s just evil.

In what universe would this ■■■■ be a punishment for anything? It doesn’t make any sense. Even if you did something bad it would never be a punishment at all, it doesn’t fit to say it’s karmic whatsoever.

You could murder someone and this wouldn’t fit as a punishment or karma whatsoever. It just doesn’t make sense to say that.

Yeah, someone is about to get their ass beat actually, not by me or anything, but yeah someone is getting their ass beat very badly. So bad in fact they wouldn’t willingly dream of doing it again.

I believe my recovery from sz is karmic. I’ve been a good person through it all like many of us are and now doing much better. The onset? Maybe a little. I tend to think a little self centered and believe god had a mission for me. I was Kind of a bad person during the onset, not before it but at the beginning of it, I can only speak for myself thoigh…my experiences

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If you want to get rid of the voices influence, you can absolutely do it. Over time they will seem less and less scary. There is no such thing as telepathy even if it would be nice sometimes.

At the beginning of my contact, my entity told me he was doing this to me because in a past life I was a jesuit priest and I told him during confession that he would go to hell for being a serial killer.

Or good things happening to bad people

I know how schiz goes; the above does not refer to you , just saying that if you accept the karmic theory , its just not accurate when you see what happens in the world.

Common sense as a substitute is far more accurate.

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My experience says that karma is true. But most people don’t know what is karma. If you live your life selfishly then it is bad karma. If you live your life for others it is good karma.

Let me give your an example… Karma does work sometimes in this birth… One of the people I know kicked out their son saying he was drug addict and useless. Within the next 5 years the mom who kicked out the son died suddenly, the dad developed cancer… They lost all their money… Their house had to be sold… The elder brother was out of work etc.

Meanwhile the son who was kicked out went on to become hugely successful and is happily married with kids.

So don’t write off karma so soon. It does exist

I used to think it’s karma from what I have done when I was younger like lying,being Lazy,but now I just try my best and not think too much

The son also does wrong,it is very wrong to take drugs,so the parent might done the son good to throw him out as punishment

But your right,living and helping others can defitnately bring you good karma:)

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Did you ever consider the parents died early due to all the stress there kid caused them?

I know lots of “bad” people that are hugely successful. And lots of good people that have rough situations

You need to evaluate more than 1 experience mate

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I completely believe Karma exist. I do believe that what we put out into the world will come back.

But I don’t believe disease is karmic. The med switch changed my life. I just don’t believe karma can be influenced to immediately by meds.

I honestly feel that I got the short end of the stick! Its a case of bad luck - I used to try to place meaning and used symbolism and read into everything when I was off my rocker -I dont do this anymore

If you study the Buddhist form of Karma…you will see that they have explained how Karma works…

Most people consider Karma to be

  1. If someone is rich, popular or successful one assumes that he is having/or has had good Karma.

The Buddha has clearly defined what is Karma …It is not defined by how much Money one has, or how materially successful one is…But it is more to do with internal happiness.

For example : Someone may be a billionaire and from the looks of it 99% of the people in this world would asuume him to be happy but he may be deeply unhappy inside.

Similarly if you look at a married couple you may assume that they are living extremely happy lives but in their hearts they may hate each other and are living together just for the sake of the society etc.

So when we talk about Karma of someone we have to be very careful before jumping to conclusions at to /if Karma is working in this world.

The Buddha has said that Karma is more about:

  1. Internal Happiness.
  2. Your relationship with others. How people perceive you…Do they look at you as a Good person or not?..That is Karma.
  3. INTENTION - Buddha has said - IT IS INTENTION what I call Karma. For example: suppose you walk in a park and you accidentally step onto an ant and kill it it is not bad Karma or if you drive a car and accidentally kill another person it is not bad karma since the Intention was not wrong…Similarly if your Intention was Good like with your Heart if you Love someone or help someone then that is Good Karma or with your Intention if you hate someone or harm someone or even think bad about someone then it is bad karma. Similar logic applies to Desires and gaining money or controlling and deceiving, manipulating people all these are bad karma.

Also the Buddha has said that Karma works in Mysterious ways and it is relative…Meaning it is impossible to pin-point a certain occurrence is one’s life and then say that this was due to the action of that etc…Many times Karma takes a long time to bring out its results…So if you did something wrong today it could take decades before the result of that action is brought into fruition.

ALSO,

You may get the completely non-connected result for a particular action. Lets say you cheated on your wife/steady relationship the result of that action may be that somoene may stab you with knife…you see?..there is no connection between your original action and the result but that is how Karma works.

And of course your next lives are entirely dependent on your Karma.

The Buddha has said that those people who lead moral and truthful lives face the hardest difficulties and lead a very difficult life. The more good you are the more difficult your life would be. But of course you would be rewarded on your death for having lead a good life and Vice versa…Those people who today are seemingly happy but have cheated and deceived their way through will face the consequences for their action by determining their next birth in Hell, animal birth etc.

Of course there is no proof for all this, it is only a belief.

Some people says that those who have managed to purify their minds and have achieved deep states of meditative consciousness can determine their own next birth or the next birth of others…It is said that it is in the 4th Jhana where one has the meditative powers to determine the next birth of an individual.

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I thought in Buddhism there is no belief in the supernatural?

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Actually the issue and problem is that even the so called earliest buddhist texts namely the Pali canon are contradictory in content…

For example if we read through the Pali canon we find that at certain places the Buddha seemed to be an extremely rational man (more rational than many modern day atheists) where in he denies:

a. A Monotheistic God.
b. Creation theory
c. Metaphysical speculations etc.
d. Superstitions, astrology etc.

In Kalama Sutta one of the famous suttas of the canon, the Buddha declares that DO NOT BELIEVE In anything(including my own words) until and unless you have found it out by yourself for it to be the truth.

…But then again somewhere else in the Canon the Buddha talks about Karma (or Kamma) and Rebirth (including Heaven and Hell etc)…So we do not know what portions of the Canon have been adulterated and made impure or what portions of the canon are the original words of the historical Buddha.

Like I said, we need to find it out by ourselves.

There are the Bodhisattvas…now while the word can have different interpretations, I know some Buddhists believe them to be a form of spirit, or enlightened soul passed on, elevating them to a higher spiritual level than the interpretation that believes they are just enlightened people…

I have had experience with Quan Yin Bodisattva…she (or he, since it’s a shapeshifting entity who can take male or female form) has been around for a long time in Buddhist circles…going back to at least the Surangama Sutra published in the early 700s

Here are some pictures of her from my meditation room in 2002.

I don’t know about actual reincarnation. Most of what I have received leans towards ancestral memories - something that is at least in part backed by science in that cells can contain memory… in such a case it is possible one of your ancestors was a Jesuit Priest and his memories got handed down genetically… just because priests aren’t supposed to marry doesn’t mean they never fathered children…
So what I would think is some demon is exploiting that knowledge to make you believe some negative karma happened…however then we can get into generational curses like those mentioned in the Bible, which would seem karmic…

I trace my ancestry back to the Tuatha D’Anu of Ireland and Scotland, the faerie race, and one of the clans in my ancestry even believe they descend from the ‘gods’…

The pagan stag-god, Caber Fedh. His ancient designation, Cernunnos, the Horned One, dates from pre-Christian time in Europe. Cernunnos, ‘the Horned One’, was an antlered god whom the pagan Celts in Gaul revered as their ancestor. Effigies of this being survive in southern England where he was also feared or revered as the mythological Herne the Hunter. When he appeared in the northern highlands of Scotland, Cernunnos emerged as Cainnech in Old Gaelic (in modern Gaelic spelt Coinneach), the divine ancestor of Clann MhicChoinnich (Mackenzie)

The strange or not so strange to me thing is that way before i knew this stuff, before I researched my ancestry and their ancient ways, I had dealing with faerie beings and entities like Cernunnos…it’s like it was always there as a part of me, as a memory… in fact one of them even told me 'We are a part of you and are also external. We have one mind and are also dual consciousness"

Karma isn’t about what you’ve done in this life but in past lives … that’s the concept and do I agree with it? No. I don’t believe its true in the slightest.

Though I am digressing from the original intention of the topic…My understanding of the Buddha Dhamma is very ;close to the Theravada Position. And the Boddhisatvas which you talk of are a part of the Mahayana tradition of Buddhism which is an interpretation that not many consider to be authentic.

However my understanding of the Buddha Dhamma is that the Buddha is essentially talking of 2 things:-

  1. The Human Condition (which can be extended to any sentient being) - but because the Human mind is the only one intelligent enough to grasp his teachings he is essentially speaking to them. Which is Suffering. And the way to end the Suffering (which are the 4 noble truths)… He compares this to 2 similies - Of a man struck by an arrow and is on the verge of death where he is asking about the attacker’s name and the weaponry rather than dealing with his condition (which is near death and struck by an arrow) and
  • where the Buddha is a surgeon of the world dealing with the disease (Suffering) rather than with useless metaphysical speculations and about God/Supernatural stuff etc.
  1. The way to deal with Craving and out of Craving comes the concept of Kamma and Dependent origination. All of these are linked together.

A lot of Buddhism that we see today talked of are not actually spoken by the historical Buddha.

Kamma is both Past Life + Present Life. And what you do in the Present Life does have a tremendous impact for your future life (both in this life and the next) — again its my belief only.