Decline of Negatives

It’s a funny thing and you don’t want to be that parrot just going on endlessly about it but…

8 Months into the keto/lo carb thing and down to lowest clinical doses of my psych meds and my negatives are improving. It’s taken time but I’m enjoying things in life again. It’s subtle but it’s real and it’s there.

Saw my shrink today and had to thank him. Best thing he ever did for my treatment and he’s done some good ones was tell me about that " Keto Guy" Dr Chris Palmer. I read his book and it was cool but actually trying the concept of the lo-carb/ keto thing has been pretty much profound.

I’ve not only lost a shedload of psych med weight but I’ve improved what your nootropic stacks haven’t been able to achieve. What nothing I’ve seen described here which affects most people here. It’s subtle but it’s working.

Just that.

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Awesome

So inspiring

I actually am having success with my nootropic stack. I am giving up nicotine alcohol and marijuana. I look forward to doing things. I get joy and accomplishments from doing things. I have energy and no longer need 14 hours of sleep a day. I have to watch my heart rate and blood pressure as some of these nootropics raise them for me.

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Yeah good work but giving up the chemicals is achievement itself.

Yes but what I’m saying is that there’s more evidence increasing to diet and exercise over the micromanagement of supplements. That has never, ever proven to be anything other than window dressing in the thirty years I’ve been mentally ill.

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When I stop the supplements I go straight into negatives. I can’t exercise at all. My diet goes to binge eating just so I feel something. It is being proven to me. I don’t build and improve but I decline and stagnate. Everything is hard nothing becomes easy. But the supplements are so expensive.

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It’s very good news. Actually, it’s amazing!
Negatives I believe are hardest to treat, and you have found your own way :slight_smile:

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Yeah. Don’t get me wrong I take supplements for health but yet to see any real evidence that it makes a difference to anything. A lo carb diet and exercise does things to some people where they don’t even need meds anymore. I’ve seen some good progress from the system and it works. Point of the post.

Thankyou. As too original post. The point is that there’s things you can do with diet and exercise that are simple. Everyone can do it and the results can be huge. Maybe not for everyone in our community but there’s something to this approach that makes the med regime something that is hopefully in our past as we move forward.

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My pdoc said vitamin d and B12 complex vitamins might help with my depression. So he ordered a blood lab and it hasn’t come back yet. Who ever is doing this ■■■■ give my blood lab back please. Quit stealing. I have to pass out Everytime. Jesus…

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Don’t look Roxy. I can see other people bleed but if I look at blood being drawn out of me I’m passing out everytime. I just can’t get my head around it so to speak but a little prick and not looking helps!

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It sure does. You have to keep blood tubes turning to keep out the blood clots. So I’m not sure who they gave my blood to. I took almost two months ago. Ah idk.

Amazing what happens when you Set The Goals, Create the Routine, and Do The Things, eh?

I’m not doing keto, but I have unprocessed my diet (well, mostly) and boy do I feel a lot better.

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Yeah it’s all good but I’m finding a simple approach via a diet does amazing things.

Yes. All you are saying is good. It all helps but the metabolic process behind the mental illness is really a thing and the results out the other end can be amazing.

All’s i know is that I was higher end of functioning anyways but if it’s eating into the negatives and I’ve lost a shed load of weight as well then it really is something I have exeprienced.

One doesn’t lead to the other. Negatives are a real problem and seeing the progress after over 6 months on the diet is really pretty profound…

There really is something to this approach and it frustrates me but not suprising the responses I get. I just need to tell ya’ll now. :slight_smile:

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I spent a year eating keto and didn’t get much from it, but I was still eating a lot of processed foods as well. I am eating a lot less meat and carbs and a lot more vegetables and legumes so my diet is much better. Daily walking also helps. I find it makes the difference that gets me moving when I don’t feel like it.

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Yeah. Hearing that. Keto works. It really does but it’s really hard to do for most it seems.

You can’t do processed. Keeping fats up is hard especially if it’s healthy but coming out the other end really does work. It works for weight loss it really does but the strange side effect is that psychiatric symptoms decline.

It becomes frustating because I came out the other side. Lowest clinical dose of psych meds and I’d reckon I could try sub clinical but not worth the effort at the moment but still. Negatives are improved and it’s noticeable. Never once seen that described by anyone doing nootropic stacks but that is no surprise.

There really is something worthwhile to this approach. I feel a bit guilty because I think I took down a post by Palmer back when I was a mod when I didn’t know who the heck they were and what it was all about because it sounded like the usual rumpus.

After over 6 months on it my postives and negatives are better for sure. It’s not easy don’t get me wrong but for some walking away from psych meds is pretty profound.

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My positive symptoms not so much, but the negatives become much more manageable. At least for me. This is a big part of how I function on a lower dose.

It’s a long post and I’m not convinced by the opening.

It’s not proven for anything and the post includes paid advertising. Look at Chris Palmer. He is a doctor and not getting paid to push nootropics.

@rogueone

Dr. Palmer is the guest on the podcast.

I can’t verify because it’s a long one and I’m time poor. Can’t verify if it’s any good even with him at the moment from two minutes.

yeah he’s interesting. Give me some time to get through it for an educated opinion!

Gets more interesting for sure. Apologies as I’ve never seen this stuff but still getting through it.

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@rogueone

I should have said that the interview starts at the 7:15 mark. Sorry about that.

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