A Physics/Mathematics Thread 🧵

A say anything equivalent thread for Physical Science and Mathematics, only empirical (near empirical) science so we can stick with the rules!

Is anyone interested in General Relativity? only casually is fine.

I’d love to build my passion for it and I think one way is to discuss it with others :handshake:

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A starting point is what I believe GR (General Relativity) is in simple -

It is a theory where we think that gravity and space can be plotted on a four dimensional graph. In this graph, we have xyz for space. And then we have a separate axis for time.

Celestial objects interact on these graphs with the equations of physics - and it shows us things like curved spaces are the cause of some forces (gravity in particular!)

Edit: I asked a Facebook member on the physics society page if he’d like to be friends (not the first time I’ve tried this with others) and he never responded. It’s surprisingly difficult to find enthusiasts for Physical Science even on university society’s and groups sometimes! :smiling_face_with_tear:

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Mathematics is one of the least empirical sciences! Proofs proceed by argument, not by experiment.

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I always thought this was fascinating

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I know it’s why I said physical science empirically not maths bc I don’t view maths as a science overall - oh it seems I didn’t word it that way at all!!! My mistake

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I think Feynman made a solution for this paradox, but I don’t remember the details as the experiment itself I’m not even comfortable with. Double slit I mean, the idea that a photon is a particle and a wave is hard for me to imagine, it makes me think - well what if you break it down further - what is it then? lol :joy:

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The type of maths used in physics is usually Euclidean/Geometry based - so it is based on shapes therefore that side is definitely scientific because it all measurable and validated by shape positions and things

Pure maths only really comes to use in things like cryptography and other abstract shapes connections so it does get pretty empirical too tbh

I don’t know any maths that’s more on the art side - I believe it’s usually things like probability or philosophical abstracts

Edit - I’m by no means proficient at proofs and abstract maths though, as it’s not fun for me lol

Similarly, basic arithmetic might be thought to be ‘validated’ simply by counting. Count 2 apples, count 2 more apples, and you count 4 apples, so here we have an experiment that proves 2 + 2 = 4 right? But then why should counting 2 apples and then counting 2 more apples make you say there is 4 apples? That is because (as a math statement) 2 + 2 = 4, regardless of apples or whatever.

And so even in geometry, no proof goes about observing some number of shapes and then validating any theorem, think of how Pythagoras is proven, not by measuring some number of triangles. Rather, on a plane, by measuring the angles 3,4,5 you can deduce, rather than hypothesize the right angle.

But science is based on the same idea - data and inference - if I’ve understood your point

There’s no data/observation in math - well most of it. There is some niche called experimental math I think which basically runs computers to try out stuff.

Hm, idk, I think we have different views of it

Edit: unrelated note. I’m still working through integration by substitution (mentioned in the say anything thread but I’ll mention the progress here now as it ties into this thread more neatly and won’t clog conversation on the other thread)

Got an email from a Turkish Journal to submit my fusion anchored money framework to them (The Economics Preprint I submitted to SSRN)

The answer is with the question!
If you can reach to make a question about a subject then you have the answer.

Example: if you are unable to form a question then there is no answer.

I think this is the general relativity between question and answer.

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I would recommend doing some research on what journals you like. The ones that reach out themselves are junk in my experience.

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yeah, i’m not going to submit anything; I’m under the impression that’ll it be their property partly if i do.

(plus I want the idea to stay British if it ever gets any reputation)

@flybottle How are your studies going

There’s different copyright arrangements you can look into, sometimes even different ones at the same publisher.

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Pretty good! Still a lot of fun and pretty close to finishing now. Probably end up just over 4 years, but then next to my full time job so I am happy with that

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Close to finishing, damn time flew by since I asked about it!! Nice! Happy to hear that - that’s really inspiring

@flybottle you were one of the reasons i’m even studying again lol, gave me inspiration back then

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Integration by substitution and then integration by parts and then matrices and networks. I think that’s all I have left to do. After that I have sequences and some Taylor polynomials and I think complex numbers and I’m done with this years syllabus. Have to prep for the exam.

Exam is in September. That stats stuff I’ve decided will be sorted on itself, if I pass, hooray. If I don’t pass stats I’ll talk to them about doing something else or retaking it

Was reading about free will from a physical science perspective. In some ways, it really does feel/seem like it’s all just a chain of events connected by deep mathematics :smiling_face_with_tear: