I like these things because I’ve been diagnosed with both but my current therapist thinks I just have sza not bpd. Judging by this article I’d agree with how I experience voices though they don’t usually get wrapped up in my delusions exactly but I do ponder where they’re coming from
If you are in a public cultural symposium,and you asked to speak about the hallucination or tell a story about something related it,it does not matter if you used the word “voices”
But if you are trying to examining /explaining the basic nature of the hallucination with an objective scientific methodology ,you should use the term "a phonetic thoughts-which are audible only for auditory perception of the listener "
In origin ,they are a thoughts not any kind of the common voices
They are emerged thought by thought in the conscious mind by supernatural vocal mechanism
Anyway,if you do not know this fact, and insist on not using the correct definition ,then what you said is irrelevant the objective science,but rather to the stories that are told in a public cultural symposium
If people understanding the phenomenon as a voices,the scientific investigator should not say or understanding the matter like them !
In the other side,we think that,there is no scientific benefit that implies any comparisons between the sz,hallucination and another condition ,as long as there is a cognitive deficiency of what the nature of hallucination is (existentialism characteristics,functionalism,the mechanism of effect and the reactions outputs )
I’m not sure what they mean by schizophrenics describing them as more vague. Mine are distinctly one male, the other female. The male voice has told me he is 38 years old.
The voices are persistent enough, with absolute Clarity that I can easily picture what they might look like. Though I do not have visual hallucinations, it’s just my mind constructing a model
Interesting! Food for thought 
I definitely can identify my voices in a clear way in terms of gender and age, and I definitely dislike them. But I do notice that a lot of times the things they say will spiral into unusual beliefs
The root of the problems;
In the normal mode,man used to take medicine to get rid of the symptoms of real disease,in the meantime he can practice many human behaviors such as Thinking,Imagination,Recalling memories,Practicing work,Or being preoccupied with seeing movies,listening to music…etc without occupied himself to treating the disease or its symptoms by his personal behavior,because it is the responsibility of the medication
But in the case of sz ,it is a particular condition from all aspects,whereas taking treatment,whatever the kind,dose and duration of treatment gives an improvement in the ability to tolerate the bad effects of the symptoms Without removing the body of hallucination permanently from the human basic nature
The present of the hallucination in the personal conscious state and its coexistence with the individual’s thoughts /feelings and behavior responses moment by moment most period time of wakefulness day by day (whatever the improvement in the resistance of symptoms) IS what causes the endless suffering and complains
With the sz,The individual can not practicing his human behaviors during the treatment such as thinking,imagination,working ,reading …etc like he does when he suffers from any organic disease ,this is the root of his problem
DO you understand what we said ?
Does anyone suffer from involuntary speech?
You might get more responses if you create a separate new topic for that @Sedated . People might not see your question at the end of this thread.
Thanks @everhopeful
If there a person who suffers from involuntary laughing without the existence of stimuli of one of the daily life events that could happen in the surrounding environment ?
If there is someone who complains about the living conditions,because of the feeling that the improvement that occurs for him at all levels is developing very slowly and is not enough to enjoy the pleasures of life as other people do ?
If there is someone who suffer from uttering some disgraceful words and defective movements in front of a gathering of people? then the person decides after the accident he did not know how he did it ?
I just have words come out in the form of a sentence that I have no control over… Embarrassing
Do you suffer from schizophrenia, if you don’t mind my asking…
Yes, I’m diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia…
Do you hear voices and/or have involuntary speech or delusions?
Each personal viewpoint or scientific hypothesis whose data do not correspond with the actual reality ,they are considered an explicit delusion,quackery or unusual beliefs
When someone talking about a public phenomenon known by term “hearing voices”
It is in actual reality 'an auditory perception to a phonemic thoughts (PT)
It is inner cognitive indoctrination OR inspiration of vocal thoughts
IT is harmful revelation OR malignant revelation
The hallucination is the malignant inspirer (suggestive)
The phenomenon does not contain any common voices that can be heard by the external ears ,and the phonemic thoughts do not transmitted through the air but rather by the inner chemical transmitters !!
I’m lucky, i don’t hear voices. I don’t have involuntary speech. But I have delusions I guess.
Sorry to hear that. I’m definitely delusional… I also hear voices and have involuntary speech (rarely)
The straw that breaks the camel’s back
1-Can you prove with the scientific methods that the person with sz listens to a Voices not into a Phonemic thoughts ?
2-Can you prove that the raw audio material is created by the genetic directive and the brain chemistry functions ?
In the case,if you can not prove anything of that by the scientific experiment,you can prove what you want by the stories whose scenes are written on demand !