Sorry, but I feel sorry for him with all of you ganging up on him.
I dont think any of us are trying to gang up on him. I already said I know he didn’t intend any harm. But he could legitimately be fired for this, and we want to impress onto him the seriousness of his actions so he doesn’t do it again.
Let’s just call this one…
Dumbbell and dumbeller. lol!
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Seriously though, it sounds like this Military woman had @77nick77 engaging in a covert operation in his pants! 
Well your answer is wrong in a couple ways no matter how sure you are of yourself. I did not start it. She did. I wasn’t “ogling.” You say that with no idea if it’s true or not. I wasn’t staring but I did look and not for a long time. I find it almost ridiculous that looking at a woman who wants to be looked at is somehow wrong. As to the weight lifting. She was rather petite and I said what I said because they were heavy weights and I was surprised she could lift so much.
Unless you are a mind reader, you have no clue if she wanted to be looked at. You assumed she did. And, I am sorry to say, but you have a long history of interpreting social situations in the opposite way that most people would, which has led you to some very troubling misunderstandings. You interpret interactions between yourself and young women as them flirting with you a LOT. You interpret interactions between yourself and young men as them being aggressive towards you a LOT. Either you live in the most overtly sexual and aggressive place in the world, or you are interpreting things incorrectly. I think you have an unconscious bias that skews your ability to read social cues appropriately
This is your place of employment. You have been in trouble there before for your interpersonal interactions. Please think twice before making comments in the future.
You should be sorry.
You don’t look at women? Was that a sex show? I thought it was innocent. IDK about you, if you want to bring up prior behaviour how about several passive aggressive negative attacks on me before? I don’t know if you got something against me and don’t care.
But at the least it’s irritating.
Your answer is ridiculous to me.
Listen @77nick77
Maybe what you said wasn’t harassment, at least that wasn’t your intention but she could have viewed it this way.
You’ve got to be careful with what you say especially at your place of employment.
But I don’t happen to agree with your thinking.
Maybe she doesn’t want to be looked at.
@77nick77 I wasn’t replying directly to you. @LilyoftheValley and @PinCushion made comments about women that made me angry.
But dude, you said you watched her. That’s creepy and can be harassment.
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I apologize for being offensive
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The military is less misogynistic than regular society. In fact, the military has been, and continues to be, at the forefront of equality in regards to women, people of color, and LGBTQ people.
Everyone in the Army wears the same uniform. A soldier is a soldier.
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I’ve worked there seven years. I have worked with some of the same women and men for that whole time. You don’t thing there’s going to be a few conflicts and misunderstandings in seven years time? I’ve done nothing grossly wrong. I think it’s damn good that I have acted appropriately for the vast majority of that time.
Hey, I have a mirror, I know all the adult women in their twenties are not interested in me that way. I look but I have never made advances or crude or sexual remarks. Now, on this thread I have two voices of reason and the rest is s smear campaign. My interactions with both young women (or any age ) at work and the younger men soldiers is just a casual “hello sir”. I never think (as I said) that women there are sexually interested in me. I’m just the janitor and some people appreciate us and some don’t.
I’ve been on this site for many years now and people are bringing up incidents or things I’ve shared over the course of 10 years. Severals small incidents over the course of 10 years.
If you think I should be perfect find one woman on here that I’ve been inappropriate with. Look at the big picture before you bring up just a few bad incidents. And the same goes for my sisters friends. I’m sorry if I judge people and situations wrong. Last time I checked, I have schizophrenia.
And what does schizophrenia do to a person? It makes the majority of us misread social cues and be fearful.
@ZombieMombi, thanks for the info about wearing spandex and it helping one move. I did state that I thought she was not necessarily teasing because she was working out.
I fell into the trap of getting called a tease when I was yet a child. An angry molested got me. I am not well on the subject and I’m sorry I angered you. Peace.
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If I had a fit body, and was in the gym stretching. in tight clothes. I would do it in a way where I am proud of my body if you know what I mean. Like really give that stretch a proper stretch, with a confident posture.
Idk what was going through the mind of that woman that you saw, but it could have been just that.
and not something with the intention of anything else further.
then again, idk other women’s intention.
and then again, sometimes I do not mind chatting to someone if they start a friendly chat, in the gym.
but I know that my main intention is just to do my workout–like go into workout zone.
maybe she was in workout zone and did not want to talk.
maybe she felt you like her and she had a bf.
There could be all sorts of reasons, maybe she was not in the mood to talk. because if she is all sexy then she probably gets men saying things to her all of the time and or has had unwanted experiences.
that she does not want to risk again.
@77nick77 you need to stop personally attacking everyone who says things you disagree with. I know you feel embarassed and defensive, but nobody here has been attacking you or running a smear campaign. You behaved inappropriately and people pointed it out to you. It is on you if you refuse to learn from your mistakes. If you continue making personal attacks against people you will be suspended.
OK, when you aren’t sniping at me I can appreciate your point of view better. I don’t really walk around worrying about harassing women because harassing women is not me.
I will still look because I got eyes. I am naturally careful of being around women.
Whatever @anon4362788. I won’t take your attack on me seriously and ignore the creepy remark because I ain’t creepy. I wonder how your interactions go with the opposite sex, hmm?