i dont really like this thread idk why
maybe it because i think it is degrading 
I know, I’ll say something. This idea that masterbation is ‘just fine’ is not just fine. If you’re masterbating and proud of it, there’s something wrong with you, but then, we are all on the Sz forum here.
people with asbergers or autism masterbate places and discuss masterbation in places it should not be discussed, just one example
http://www.autism-help.org/family-masturbation-autism.htm
if you’re masterbating chronicly with pornography, your a porn addict. there’s another label you don’t want in life. masterbating chronicly with porn means you look down on women, are probably abusive, and have other issues and hopefully you’ll all go find a better more competent shrink. One shrink even refers to this as a sex disorder, perhaps the shrinks are lyig to you to get you out of their office. if you’re masterbating chronicly with porn, go find a shrink that specializes in treating sex offenders, they’ll have a different story for your problem.
I don’t think that just because people are asking questions and opening up a discussion means everyone is proud of it. I think that very valid concerns are being raised as people try and come to terms with them selves.
Three different autistic schools do come to the pool where I work, and they are there for therapy. The autistic youth that have inappropriate boundaries are so badly affected and sadly very low functioning.
To just say people with autism do this in places that they shouldn’t!
Well, I am sorry, but I don’t agree with that as a blank statement. Autism has a spectrum. I haven’t seen any of the high functioning students masturbate in public yet. Low functioning students are corrected when necessary.
Even your article that I’ve read says when correcting this, be discrete and try and use some kindness and understanding.
It doesn’t say come out and tell them how horrid they are, shame them and throw the term “Sex offender” around.
I am a female, I have four older brothers, and mostly male cousins. Some suffer from mental illness, others do not. All of them masturbate. All of them ask questions in their life and all of them talk about it when they it’s mostly all guys in the room. Locker room talk.
Even my dad has the odd playboy tucked under the bed. I wouldn’t say he needs to see a shrink that deals with sex offenders.
As far as throwing the word Chronic in there; well, anything on this earth that is a chronic habit needs attention. But a few guys on a forum taking about once a day in the privacy of their own home doesn’t sound chronic to me.
As far as the porn industry, that is a very conflicted topic I admit. On one end you have playboy.
Kimba Wood did ONE Playboy spread and that paid her full Harvard Law bill and she became a federal judge. Dr. Polly Matzinger - three playboy shoots= two British medical schools paid in full and is a world renowned immunologist.
But then there is the other end of the scale; Hustler. Sad state of affairs.
I don’t think magazines like playboy demeans women as nearly as much as fashion magazines BY women that go on and on about how we’re just not good enough, no one will ever love us if we don’t have thigh gap. Or MY pet peeve; parenting magazines! They demean women. No matter what you do, you will never ever be a good mother.
Women magazines are far worse on women then men magazines.
Men magazines say “hey this is one beautiful women.”
Women magazines say, “You will never be loved, you will never have a husband and should you end up with a baby, you will loose your looks and you will always be a terrible mother and by the way your dress is so last year.”
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Masturbation is part of the human experience, almost everyone does it, even if they do not admit to it
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At times im sidetracked from the deed, ill begin thinking passionately how to feed the homeless or things like that and they’ll go “I can’t believe this ■■■■! Is he actually thinking about that right now?!”
I laugh about it.
Right in the middle of it it will occur to me how much food is being wasted and it just flips their lids you know.
very familiar, i also have commenting voices whenever i did/do the deed.
i can only reassure you that this wears off eventually, the voices for me are still commenting
but no where near what it used too have been.
feeling guilty about it is only what empowers them/ the voices more, so let nature run his/her course
i hope this helps you
Nobody is talking about masturbating “chronically” here. I recommend you read this article on the top medical web site WebMD:
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i used to masturbate for hours at a time because it wasn’t as satisfying as sex…
now i am so fat from my psych meds that i rarely bother…
since Latuda i hardly even get horny anymore…
a lot more than 65% of women masturbate…they are just too ashamed to admit it…
hugs to all
jamesgirl
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then the pages get stuck together and you think ‘i’ve gone too far this time’ 
just think about all of those potential babies. its like a massacre before its even begun poor little guys didnt have a chance, well they might have had a chance, i mean they might have had potential but they just didnt get to where they should have, what a waste really, and i wasnt even supposed to be born so that could have been me, not even a stain.
have you got any information on people that don’t masturbate?
~This is what I found concerning this:
MASTURBATION AND INSANITY
IN HIS SCHOLARLY STUDY ON "MASTURBATORY INSANITY; THE HISTORY OF AN IDEA," (JOURNAL OF MENTAL SCIENCE 108:1, JAN., 1962), E. H. HARE REFERS TO A STUDY OF 500 PATIENTS ADMITTED CONSECUTIVELY TO THE IOWA STATE PSYCHOPATHIC HOSPITAL. HE STATES THAT THE AUTHORS OF THE STUDY (MALAMUD, W., AND PALMER, G., "THE ROLE PLAYED BY MASTURBATION IN THE CAUSATION OF MENTAL DISTURBANCES, JOURNAL OF NERVOUS AND MENTAL DISORDERS, 76:220, 1932) FOUND THAT IN TWENTY-TWO CASES MASTURBATION WAS "APPARENTLY THE MOST IMPORTANT CAUSE OF DISORDER." {TSB 268.1}
HE THEN CONTINUES:
"THE AUTHORS CONCLUDED THAT IT WAS THE MENTAL
CONFLICT ENGENDERED BY MASTURBATION RATHER THAN THE
HABIT ITSELF WHICH LED TO THE ILLNESS, AND THEY BELIEVED
THIS CONCLUSION TO BE SUPPORTED BY THE EFFICACY OF
PSYCHOTHERAPY DIRECTED TOWARDS READJUSTING THE
PATIENT'S IDEAS ABOUT MASTURBATION. YET THE FACT THAT
FIFTEEN OF THE TWENTY-TWO PATIENTS SUFFERED FROM
DEPRESSION MUST RAISE DOUBTS ABOUT THE VALIDITY EVEN
OF THIS TEMPERATE CONCLUSION, FOR THE DEPRESSED PATIENT
IS NOT ONLY PRONE TO BLAME HIMSELF FOR NEGLECT OF WHAT
HE BELIEVES TO BE THE RULES OF HEALTH, BUT ALSO TENDS TO
RECOVER FROM HIS ILLNESS WHETHER TREATED BY
PSYCHOTHERAPY OR NOT."--P. 22.
269
{TSB 268.2}
THUS HARE QUESTIONS THE CONCLUSIONS OF MALAMUD AND PALMER, BUT SAYS, SIGNIFICANTLY, THAT THEIR STUDY IS "ONE OF THE VERY FEW ATTEMPTS (INDEED, AS FAR AS MY READING GOES, THE ONLY REAL ATTEMPT) AT A SCIENTIFIC STUDY OF THE MASTURBATORY HYPOTHESIS [THE HYPOTHESIS THAT MASTURBATION CAN CAUSE INSANITY]." {TSB 269.1}
AFTER ACKNOWLEDGING THAT "THERE IS NO WAY OF DISPROVING THE MASTURBATORY HYPOTHESIS," HARE OFFERS HIS FINAL CONCLUSION: "ALL WE CAN SAY, FROM THE EVIDENCE, IS THAT THE ASSOCIATION BETWEEN MASTURBATION AND MENTAL DISORDER IS WEAK AND INCONSTANT AND THAT THEREFORE, IF MASTURBATION IS A CAUSAL FACTOR, IT IS PROBABLY NOT A VERY IMPORTANT ONE" (IBID. P. 19). {TSB 269.2}
SO, ALTHOUGH THIS AUTHORITY MINIMIZES THE POSSIBILITY THAT MASTURBATION AND INSANITY MIGHT BE LINKED, HE DOES NOT DISMISS IT ALTOGETHER. EVEN MORE SIGNIFICANTLY, HE HAS DISCOVERED THAT THERE HAS BEEN ONLY ONE REAL ATTEMPT TO TEST THE HYPOTHESIS SCIENTIFICALLY. {TSB 269.3}
WRITING OF MASTURBATION IN THEIR ADOLESCENT DEVELOPMENT AND ADJUSTMENT (MCGRAW-HILL BOOK COMPANY, 1965), LESTER C. AND ALICE CROW CONCLUDE: "THE EFFECTS OF THIS FORM OF SEX PERVERSION ARE NOT YET FULLY KNOWN." {TSB 269.4}
DR. DAVID HORROBIN, AN M.D. AND PH.D. FROM OXFORD UNIVERSITY, STATES:
"THE AMOUNT OF ZINC IN SEMEN IS SUCH THAT ONE
EJACULATION MAY GET RID OF ALL THE ZINC THAT CAN BE
ABSORBED FROM THE INTESTINES IN ONE DAY. THIS HAS A
NUMBER OF CONSEQUENCES. UNLESS THE AMOUNT LOST IS
REPLACED BY AN INCREASED DIETARY INTAKE, REPEATED
EJACULATION MAY LEAD TO A REAL ZINC DEFICIENCY WITH
VARIOUS PROBLEMS DEVELOPING, INCLUDING IMPOTENCE.
"IT IS EVEN POSSIBLE, GIVEN THE IMPORTANCE OF ZINC
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FOR THE BRAIN, THAT 19TH CENTURY MORALISTS WERE CORRECT
WHEN THEY SAID THAT REPEATED MASTURBATION COULD
MAKE ONE MAD!"--ZINC (VITABOOKS: ST. ALBANS,
VERMONT, 1981), P. 8. {TSB 269.5}
THIS STATEMENT IS SIMILAR TO THAT MADE BY CARL C. PFEIFFER, PH.D., M.D., IN HIS BOOK ON ZINC. HE DECLARES:
"WE HATE TO SAY IT, BUT IN A ZINC-DEFICIENT ADOLESCENT,
SEXUAL EXCITEMENT AND EXCESSIVE MASTURBATION
MIGHT PRECIPITATE INSANITY."--ZINC AND OTHER
MICRO-NUTRIENTS (KEATS: NEW CANAAN, CONN., 1978), P. 45. {TSB 270.1}
NOT ALL MEDICAL AUTHORITIES WOULD AGREE WITH THESE CONCLUSIONS, YET IT IS SIGNIFICANT THAT THERE ARE SOME WHOSE STUDY AND RESEARCH HAVE LED THEM TO OPINIONS WHICH ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE TEACHINGS OF ELLEN WHITE. {TSB 270.2}
SEE CHILD GUIDANCE, PP. 439-456, FOR FURTHER INFORMATION ON THIS SUBJECT. {TSB 270.3}
22 . . . both mind and body were enfeebled through the habit of self-abuse. (Testimonies for the Church, Volume 5, p. 91)
The effect of zinc deficiency has particularly profound effects on the male, because extraordinary amounts of zinc are found in the testicles and the prostate gland. . . . The amount of zinc in semen is such that one ejaculation may get rid of all the zinc that can be absorbed from the intestines in one day. . . . In humans, among the most consistent effects of zinc deficiency are changes in mood and behavior. There is depression, extreme irritability, apathy and even in some circumstances, behavior which looks like schizophrenia. . . . It is even possible, given the importance of zinc for the brain, that 19th-century moralists were correct when they said that repeated masturbation could make one mad! Similarly, the high livers were also correct when they said that a diet rich in oysters was necessary to compensate for excessive sexual indulgence. [Oysters supply a high level of zinc]. (David Horrobin, M.D., Ph.D. [Oxford University], Zinc (St. Albans, Vt.: Vitabooks, Inc., 1981), p. 8).
We hate to say it but in a zinc-deficient adolescent, sexual excitement and excessive masturbation might precipitate insanity. (Carl Pfeiffer, Ph.D., M.D. [Harvard University], Zinc and other Micro-Nutrients, (New Canaan, CT: Keats Publishing, Inc., 1978), p. 45).
drlwilson.com/ARTICLES/MASTURBATION .htm
truthorfables.net/zinc_brain .htm
truthorfables.net/zinc_diseases .htm
Achieving an orgasm is one of the most pleasurable feelings we experience in our lifetime. For that reason, many men either pursue frequent sexual encounters or masturbate often in lieu of sexual activity. However, an orgasm is a very intense, physiological process that, if done in excess, can lead to sexual exhaustion.
Physiological Changes
Sexual exhaustion is a byproduct of excessive masturbation and ejaculation. Exhaustion will cause your concentration to fade. Your memory will follow suit, and even your libido will start to dissipate. Your once voracious desire for sex will be nonexistent, while your once rock-hard erections will remain flaccid or weak during sex.
The problem for most sexually exhausted individuals is simple: masturbation and sex have ruined their basic human desires. The solution is more complex. Refraining from masturbating will help, but the body’s chemistry has been altered, damaging the nerves and resulting in an imbalance of hormones.
Frequent masturbation and ejaculation stimulate the acetylcholine/parasympathetic nervous functions excessively, resulting in the over-production of sex hormones and neurotransmitters such as acetylcholine, dopamine, and serotonin. As a result, the body’s ability to modulate the hypothalamus and adrenal functions has been diminished. In this state, the body releases excessive fight-or-flight hormones, overworking the adrenal glands and overheating the body causing it to sweat abnormally from the heightened stress.
Hormonal Changes
People who suffer from sexual exhaustion experience a dearth in hormones and neuro-growth factors. A dearth in hormones can cause the following:
Acetylcholine Depletion
Excessive DHT
Dopamine Depletion
HGH Depletion
Excessive Stress Hormones
Low Testosterone
Excessive Prostaglandin E2
Thyroid hormone imbalance
Weak parasympathetic nerves
Poor liver function and immunity
In order to combat the unbalanced hormones and neuro-growth factors, males can take all-natural supplements to properly balance and cleanse the body. For example Herbal Remedy contains adaptogenic herbs, such as Alisma Plantago, Ginkgo Biloba, and Siberian Ginseng, which balance the impairments produced by chronic stress without interfering with the valuable short-term stress responses.
The benefits of adaptogenic herbs include:
Exerting system-wide protective and restorative effects
Lowering the presence of cortisol, a stress hormone that can ruin a man’s erection
Increasing the efficiency of oxygen utilization
Modulating stress responses and enhancing immunity
Combating aging cognitive functions
High Cortisol Level
The liver is tasked with detoxifying and producing biochemicals necessary for the body. When too many biochemicals are produced, such as in the case of too much sex, the liver impedes the production of key chemicals that transmit nerve impulses that ensure healthy blood flow. Likewise, the adrenal glands and testes stop producing chemicals necessary for testicular function, such as DHEA and testosterone.
Excessive ejaculation depletes the body of essential hormones, nutrients, while increasing metabolite byproducts and stress hormones, such as cortisol. Short-term bursts of cortisol are necessary to help the body recover from the effects of stress and to boost sugar levels for immediate energy levels. However, when an individual produces too much cortisol, the body begins to pull calcium from the bones, reduces the response to pain, alters moods, and lowers immunity.
If over-masturbation or over-ejaculation persists, the stress hormone will remain high and continue to have insidious repercussions on the body. You need to take herbal remdy to recover from sexual exhaustion & dysfunction. The body needs a respite from the cycle of abuse as well as a proactive regiment of supplements to full recovery.
Long distance runners understand the damage muscles endure during an arduous run. The body expends much of its energy feeding the lungs and leg muscles to propel the runner forward. When the runner stops, the body continues to expend energy, but instead of using energy to power the muscles, the body uses energy to heal itself. Now think of your libido as a muscle. Over use the muscle and it will tear. Once torn, the muscle will need time to recover and heal itself.
Growth Potential Stunted?
Sexual exhaustion caused by over masturbation or ejaculation over produces Cortisol, a stress hormone that controls blood pressure, glucose in the blood, and inflammatory immune system responses. When overproduced, the hormone ruins your hormonal system. Prolonged Cortisol elevations and hormone imbalances result in the suppression of the immune system, elevation of blood sugar, loss of bone calcium, poor cognitive functioning, and lack of ejaculation control.
Alleviate the Following Problems:
Adrenal fatigue and persistent tiredness
Performance anxiety and nervous attacks
Receding hair line and hair loss
Lower back pain, headache, and unexplainable discomforts
Unable to hold ejaculation or erection longer than 20 minutes
Sleep disturbance and insomnia
Buzzing ear and blurred vision
Watery semen
Excessive masturbation or intercourse does more than just relieve stress. Excessive indulgence can increase immune responses, leaving a person more prone to expereince pain, sickness, and diseases. Severe Cortisol damage can cause symptoms similar to chronic steroid therapy, including: increased irritation, low sex drive, and difficulty concentrating or remembering.
Maybe helpful for: Men’s Over Masturbation Causes: SSRI DHEA depletion DHT HGH depletion dopamine depletion serotonin depletion Symptoms: low sperm count chronic fatigue buzzing ear eye floaters headache lower back pain sleep disorder thinning hair.
[SSRIs, known as selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, increase serotonin levels to help fight against depression, anxiety, and personality disorders. While most men and women who consume SSRIs live happy, productive lives, the drugs tend to cause some unwanted side effects that include premature ejaculation and male impotence.
SSRIs can shut down the brain or weaken the parasympathetic link to the testicles, prostate, and ■■■■■. SSRIs also can overload the liver’s P450 detoxification system that result in less NO synthase and guanylate cyclase, which can lead to impotence and premature ejaculation. Men looking to combat depression or anxiety without the unwanted side effects should try all-natural solutions to help them improve their minds.]
Back pain or discomfort
O.M. reduces the production of oxytocin, DHEA, testosterone and DHT. The depletion of these neurochemicals triggers a release of the inflammatory hormone prostaglandin E2, which is one source for lower-back pain.
Eye floaters and fuzzy vision
Blurry vision or dark spots that cloud your eye sight are caused by a deficiency of cGMP, nitric oxide and acetylcholine in the visual sensory nerves. These deficiencies are intensified by excessive masturbation.
Chronic Fatigue
Cortisol, a steroid hormone meant to increase blood sugar and metabolism, experiences an increase in production after masturbation. Proliferation of the hormone causes an invariable feeling of exhaustion.
Groin discomfort and Testicular pain
O.M. exhausts the pituitary-adrenal-testicular axis, which lowers oxytocin, DHEA, testosterone and DHT production. Once these neurochemicals experience a reduction, the inflammatory hormone prostaglandin E2 creates pain near the groin and testicles.
Premature ejaculation
O.M. depletes HGH, testosterone, dopamine and serotonin, neurochemicals that strengthen both the endocrine system and parasympathetic nerves inside your body. Without these neurochemicals, the parasympathetic nerves that control an erection become weak, resulting in premature ejaculation.
Prostatitis
Known as prostate inflammation, Prostatitis enlarges the prostate and impedes urinary flow and erectile capacity. Masturbation elevates DHT in the body. When too much DHT is present, the neurochemical inflames the prostate.
Insomnia
Melatonin is a neurochemical that induces sleep. Men who masturbate in excess see a depletion in melatonin that leads to insomnia.
Stress and mood swings
Cortisol elevates blood sugar to help manage stress. Except O.M. increases the production of cortisol to such high levels that it causes more stress. Meanwhile, low testosterone levels caused by O.M. results in mood swings.
Thinning hair
O.M. leads to excessive testosterone-DHT conversion. In response to the imbalance, the body produces cortisol, which induces high levels of prolactin and reduces DHEA, HGH and testosterone production. The sudden shift in neurochemicals causes hair loss.
Says a 19th century moralist:
Sins and crimes, and the violation of nature’s laws, were shown me as the causes of this accumulation of human woe and suffering. I saw such degradation and vile practices, such defiance of God, and I heard such words of blasphemy, that my soul sickened. From what was shown me, a large share of the youth now living are worthless. Corrupt habits are wasting their energies, and bringing upon them loathsome and complicated diseases. Unsuspecting parents will try the skill of one physician after another, who prescribes drugs, when they generally know the real cause of the failing health, but for fear of offending and losing their fees, they keep silent, when as faithful physicians they should expose the real cause. Their drugs only add a second great burden for abused nature to struggle against, which often breaks down in her efforts and the victim dies. And the friends look upon the death as a mysterious dispensation of providence, when the most mysterious part of the matter is, that nature bore up as long as she did against her violated laws. Health, reason, and life, were sacrificed to depraved lusts.
"I have been shown that children who practice self-indulgence previous to puberty, or the period of merging into manhood and womanhood, must pay the penalty of nature’s violated laws at that critical period.
“Many sink into an early grave, while others have sufficient force of constitution to pass this ordeal. If the practice is continued from the ages of fifteen and upward, nature will protest against the abuse she has suffered, and continues to suffer, and will make them pay the penalty for the transgression of her laws, especially from the ages of thirty to forty-five, by numerous pains in the system, and various diseases, such as affection of the liver and lungs, neuralgia, rheumatism, affection of the spine, diseased kidneys, and cancerous humors. Some of nature’s fine machinery gives way, leaving a heavier task for the remaining to perform, which disorders nature’s fine arrangement, and there is often a sudden breaking down of the constitution, and death is the result.” An Appeal to Mothers (1864) pgs. 17-18.
What isn’t in the day.
Is no more in the night.
For the shadowy figures shall pass away.
In the coming of the daylight.
I’ve had an issue with voices telling me there going to make me orgasm without jacking off and that there’s nothing I can do about it. Then I get an erection and they try to do whatever the hell there trying to do. I just tell them to go away if it happens.
Embarrassing though
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Yep pretty much what admin says. You got self-conscious about masturbating and your voices are reflecting that.
Change how you feel about it and the voices will change too. It’s up to you how you go about that though.
Yeah, they like to ■■■■ with people sometimes.
Anyway they can get at you really.
Porn is destructive. It acts on the mind and causes it to get inflamed with desire. Your thinking can lose control of itself. Its result for the male is masturbation. There’s no other person there. It is easy to get aroused today with the Internet so readily accessible. “Nothing in excess”.
I’m wondering if excessive masturbation is the cause of my delusions as well. I was doing it about 4 times a day, even though I knew I might feel like ■■■■. It had caused me problems with temporary depression in the past as well. I thought if I masturbated more, I would feel better, when in fact it may have played a hand in my “psychotic episode”. No way to know for sure, as the medication I’m on decreases libido.
That must be horrible
yeah it was pretty ■■■■■■ up. It went away though after about 1 year i think. it would just randomly happen throughout that year. hasn’t come back since though so that’s good!
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I agree with you 100% @kidsister. That’s why I never read any women’s magazines. I don’t watch cable or network T.V. either for the exact same reason. Very degrading to women all.