Will a lifting med will be able to counteract the zyprexa?

The Zyprexa kills me in a way. It makes me so low that I start to suffer and I even stop talking. Now I try in adjunction the lithium. But will the lithium will be able to counteract the Zyprexa? Is that what you’ve done against the bad side effect of the ap with an antidepressant or some other lifting med?
The problem is that the other aps were even worse than Zyprexa. But I don’t lie, its very bad what I feel on olanzapine, its not a life and its beyond human…

Some opinions, please? Did you take antidepressants or something else to counteract your ap?

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I take Prozac along with my ap. I think it has helped my negative symptoms.

Honestly, I didn’t feel better until I got off of zyprexa and switched over to Abilify. Not sure if you’ve tried that or not. I think I remember you saying something about it but it may have been another member on the forum.

Even with lithium, celexa (antidepressant), artane (for akathisia) and ativan (still on it), it would not lift me up. I gained 50 pounds over a year and my mind was slowed down.

On abilify i have more focus. It does give me akathisia but i counteract that with ativan if I need it. Also, i take care of my tasks throughout the day to let off some of that energy

Anna i take zyprexa and lithium as you do. I also take lexapro to help lift my mood, it sort of works…

I want to go onto a highee dose of lexapro though.

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Thank you very much for the answer. But it makes me sad… I tried abilify, yes. It increased too much my fears. I don’t know what ill do, I cant really change my current ap and its quite bad on it :frowning: .

Abilify is uplifting, i found it to be.

Problem was i got flashing lighting behind my eyes.

@anon20318121, do you take your lithium and the Lexapro to counteract the bad side effect from the Zyprexa or you take them for symptoms you had before? Is there logic to take some lifting med to counteract an ap mostly? this can help?

I’m sure if you work with your doctor then you’ll find what works best. I wish you well. None of us deserve to go through this. It’s an ongoing war with many battles.

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Yea the zyprexa got me down so we added lithium to help get my mood stable and to help with “depression”, it sort of worked but I was still depressed only when i added lexapro did i notice a slight change, that is why i want to go on a higher dose of lexapro as im only on 5 mg currently.

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I take an AD and it stops me feeling too bad, but my mood is still low/depressed.

Why won’t you eat Anna when you’re not on zyprexa?

Ok thanks dear :slight_smile: I am a bit desperate cause only Zyprexa works a bit but it makes my negatives very bad to the point that I live on the couch since 8 years, just been here smoking ton of cigarettes. I feel like dying slowly on it… Maybe Ill need a cocktail cause in a way, I cant switch the ap anymore…
Frings, my mind is very racing and ■■■■■■ up and I cant eat, idk why. I am in pure hell without an ap, I can really die. My psychosis is bad and I stop eating. I stop even getting out of the bed, I start to lose all emotions too and I am ultra scared then. I start taking personally what is said on the tv, you see a bit the situation? I am a danger for myself without a treatment, idk why I don’t eat. I start to lose all appetite, its urgent like state. Now you see?..

Yes I understand you need the zyprexa. I just ask because when I stopped meds in the past, it also gave me racing thoughts and delusions of messages from the tv, but it didn’t affect my eating. But I know we all have different symptoms with this illness.

Yes, sorry to be hard on you still, really. Yes, Zyprexa was the best for me in stopping the delusions with the tv etc. and it put me out of the bed. But all the other rest is awful. It didn’t help me with my emotions, I even suspect it to cause me to talk even less… its beyong the dead state, it causes me pain I find… Without the ap, I repeat in my mind thoughts like I should fight but there is nothing else in my head, its quite limited plus it cant stop… I am agitated but in the same time, bedridden in my bed. its very bad state :frowning: .Plus I start to have tremendous headaches. whatever. idk why I stop eating. In my mind is that I should get skinnier in a way, but its not normal cause I stop eating totally.

How many ADs have you tried? I’ve tried a few and I expected them to make me feel better, or at least ‘ok’ but they didn’t do that. They didn’t seem to affect me at all, but after taking them a long time, I notice they stop me feeling too bad. When I tried stopping them, because I thought they weren’t working on me, I really did start feeling terrible… so I guess they do help me.

I took Prozac, Effexor, Zoloft, escitalopram, citalopram and some others. They all lifted my fears idk…You know, I already talk a bit more on the lithium. My mind is calmer also in a way. But I have troubles with the emotions still and I still have my fears. Some say lithium can work as an antidepressant, but maybe I should wait more than one month you see? The problem is that every evening, after my take of the Zyprexa, I feel as ■■■■… Ultra smashed, tired, desperate etc. Even my friends say that before my Zyprexa I was going out more with them. I stopped going out with them straight after my aps. Ok, there is the realization that I am ill too, but that’s another story…

ok, lets stay positive. I am too negative here but my situation is quite bad, I am ultra scared. ill see if the coming days are better on this lithium.

I think if taking lithium has more positives to it than negatives then me I would continue with it. I would give it another month if I was in your position.

I know there are bad side effects from the zyprexa, it zonks me out and makes me sleepy, so I usually take it before going to bed. Is this an option for you? For me it gives me restless legs too, so I often have trouble sleeping.

Its strange, but it doesn’t make me sleepy. I said it to my doc too - I don’t feel any kind of sedation on Zyprexa, nothing. I don’t feel a relaxation of my mind, nothing dopey even… it just puts me dark thoughts, it limits my thinking, you see? I wasn’t able to think when I was only on it. I was dumber I find… Yes, ill wait with the lithium, thanks :slight_smile: soon will be 2 months on it but its maybe few regarding the fact that I was ill since years, no?
what do you do other than that? Me, I have the cat of my sister for 3 days while they are on vacation. He is ultra pretty wow. wait, ill make a photo of him now :slight_smile: I cuddle him etc etc :slight_smile:

I think it’s good to give meds some time to work, maybe it will take longer because you were ill a long time like you say. In the past I’ve tried a med and stopped it after a couple days, because of bad side effects, but I think I should have tried it for longer.

Cats are awesome and dogs too, I’d like one myself but they’re not allowed in my apartment :frowning: