Why do people have to be glib with me. That's a word not used enough

If you talk to me in an insincere and shallow way, I will not be happy. There is no need for mental health professionals to talk to me in a glib way

We have a mental health line here to call if you have a problem

All I wanted to do was talk about my symptoms for an appointment tomorrow with the pharmacist to prepare, as I am confused these days what ‘normal’ is or what we’re even shooting for here

Anyway, she answered the phone and I told her not to be glib with me. She went quiet and I just said if your going to be ■■■■■■■ rude to me then I don’t want to talk to you either

Swear I must have a ■■■■ label on my file. Either that or they go around talking down to other people in their misanthropic way

What’s more likely as I don’t know?

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Sounds like you were intolerant of her tone of voice.

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Yea I guess I was, but she spoke to me in a way I found very hard to engage with. If she doesn’t like doing it she should get another job

Usually they’re nice people, but this person was extremely unpleasant towards me, so I enacted my zero policy of putting up with people who treat me badly

It’s a reaction to being taken for a ride in the past by insincere people, and you’re right, I am completely intolerant these days for it as if you give an inch they take a mile

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That is totally unacceptable. There are plenty of fine women. Without the women in my life I’d be ‘Up s*** creek without a paddle’,as my late wife used to say. They’re caring,strong,independent minded women.

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This woman will not tolerate that type of blatant ignorance and misogyny.

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You make it sound like finding another job is easy.

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It is. Lots of bad healthcare workers.

Labor shortage makes anyone who can work find a job with a sign in bonus.

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I don’t get along with my case manager and refuse to go into her office.

She accused me of bringing bedbugs into her office when I don’t have bedbugs. Another client admitted to me on the phone that he had bedbugs, and it was probably him that brought them into her office. He was walking through the main office, and one of the big wigs asked him if his problem was taken care of. He said no, then she said We are going to have to get you out of that place!

I told my therapist ONLY what he had said to me on the phone, and haven’t told anyone else.

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It is here in the UK. Lots of vacancies since we left the EU!

I think about it now I have woken the next day that I should have dealt with it better

But I was upset with this person

Guessing she wasn’t one of the usual people as it was a national holiday

What I have learned at my age as you put it, is that anyone, regardless of what body they have can be nice or horrible. It has nothing to do with the fact she was a woman.

I think you must have not had a nurturing upbringing with the female role models in your life to have such an opinion.

Not cool

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I don’t particularly either.

The bedbug thing wasn’t your fault, and they shouldn’t treat you like that

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I’m a middle-aged, white male. No one wants me as I’m apparently evil and skew their preferred hiring quotas. Welcome to Canada.

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My step-dad was those things. He was made redundant from a fancy professional career that was well paid

Think this happened in his mid-50’s

He said every time he went into an interview, he could tell the younger people thought he was ‘past it’, and saying it or not - people do discriminate

Eventually he gave up and got a job as assistant manager in retail, which was something he had done 20 years previous to getting a degree

What I don’t understand is how they keep raising the retirement age, yet there is a distinct lack of appreciation that in the private sector, they want younger people - I am assuming because they’re cheaper and easier to knock into line

It was quite sad for him in the close of his good career that he wasn’t able to get past this barrier of age

Diversity includes white middle-aged males as it does anyone else, and I think this quota system they’re using is ignoring age completely

You are far from evil @shutterbug

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I remember hearing earlier that the medical profession in UK is under a great deal of stess. Perhaps the professionals you are talking to are so under the pump their compassion and perhaps even their professionalism has taken a hit.

You have a right to be incensed, but being blunt with them might not be the best approach. Try being direct and polite at the same time maybe?

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@Joker you have a long history of being antagonistic and abrasive to MH professionals. I know a lot of that is due to bad experiences, but at some point you are going to have to face the common denominator there.

It’s a thing I had to a lot of work to learn, myself. I had been mistreated, and I had previously coped by internalizing and blaming myself. After I learned that it was unfair to blame myself for times I was bullied/abused, I swung too far the other direction. I believed that NOTHING was ever my fault. Then I had to do some work to learn how to judge whether the problem is me or other people. I’m still not great at it, tbh. I think it is a lifelong struggle.

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It seems to me that medical people are always kind of distant and when you have mental health medical people that distance changes a bit.

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You’re completely right in what you say

The problem I have is sometimes I don’t have very good control over how I react, and a lot of the time the process of going through treatment has been pretty rough

It has been a long journey like you seem to also have experienced. Think rn a problem I have is agitation and not sleeping well enough

But that’s no excuse for taking it out on people trying to help

Sometimes though they are to blame, and sometimes I am to blame.

I have a lot of trouble with judging a situation, and I think you’re right that I may default to the wrong conclusions a lot of the time

Dealing with people is a serious weak point, as my world is very small. Even smaller now my family is fragmenting and losing touch with some of the few people left

Could always count on family, but since Covid, people are acting out and I again have not dealt with that very well making things worse :frowning:

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Gosh that is all so relatable. It is a long and winding road. And when you already have difficulty understanding communication, it can be even more challenging Best of luck on figuring it all out.

I have found that, for me personally, defaulting to keeping the peace during interactions does less damage than defaulting to protecting myself. I can always think back and decide I was right after all. I cannot unsay aggressive things that I snapped out when I was defending myself falsely.

The downside with this is that sometimes people get annoyed with me because I act like I agree in the moment, but later on I change my mind. But that is less damaging than screaming at people and then having to go back and apologize.

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