Who’s been shocked?

Just seems brutal to me. It has a horrible history. Antipsychotics are a more advanced form of treatment then just zapping someones head with electricity.

Like I said people will try anything when they are depressed.

I’m not really sure what your referring to when you say shocked. I’ve never had ect or anything like that. However I have been shocked my lightning twice. The lightning hit the ground right next to me and went through me. Being the dumbass that I am I thought it would be a good idea to sit on my porch barefoot to watch the rain. Being hit by lightning feels exactly like you probably think it does. It took me a few days to recover each time and that’s when my migraines started. If there is an upside to being hit by lightning it was that I thought I was invincible for a time afterwards.

What are you asking like ECT( Electroconvulsive therapy) or like electric fences?

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You don’t even feel it now. Back in the day it was meant to create an emotional response by causing pain. They didn’t even know why it worked, they just knew it did. When they realized it was inhumane and only making them worse, they stopped.

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In the past it was brutal… but don’t misconstrue past examples with modern techniques… it’s very mild and well controlled…

I don’t think it leaves any one seizing and they aren’t subjected to the currents for any extended amount of time.

The real break through in that kind of therapy has already been put into practice, but it’s rare as it is very expensive.

rTMS… It uses high powered electromagnetic waves instead of electrical currents.

I wouldn’t mind going through ECT once just to gauge the effects… I’m never going to look at schizophrenia as a purely chemical illness. It’s got just as much to do with neuron to neuron firing… and these techniques are the only ones that directly deal with that nature.

So for experimentation’s sake I’d try ECT… but it doesn’t seem offered in my area nor is it a pressing matter… but I do think that the procedures are mostly harmless.

This is a very relevant article as it specifies the technique in use with voice hearers specifically.

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That was an awesome response and I’m glad you would seek help!

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They still do it though.

So what? Doesn’t hurt you so what’s your point?

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It’s just my opinion.

Memory loss. 151515

Great. It’s wrong. But great. If you want to be sedated on meds for the rest of your life, you’ll never get anywhere new.

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After exhausting all efforts to lift my depression, he asked me to consider ECT.
I heard not good things about it and refused. He went so far as to have me talk to another patient of his that was successful with it, she couldn’t say enough good things about it.
I looked it up on the internet what it was like(mind you this was back in 1996) and what I read about exactly how it worked, I wouldn’t consider it.
Think he asked me at every appointment for over a year, then finally gave up.

Seems too only be temporary unless you give up half way through which is the problem most people don’t give it a chance and this causes problems quitting before completion.

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Man you do realize people with schizophrenia get forced to take antipsychotics? Even if I wanted to stop them I couldn’t.

This is a schizophrenia site. Why are you criticizing taking antipsychotics? They are extremely important.

No I had no idea. I only have the same illness.

Antipsychotics are important but they don’t fix anything and many people don’t like being on them. Why are you criticizing legitimate therapies?

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ECT is primarily used for depression with a lot of success.

I think it’s benefits with sufferers of psychosis are more synergistic, secondary, and accidental… The same goes for anti-psychotics… they literally were tranquilizers before reports of reduction in positive symptoms started setting in.

Regarding the world, they have no idea what psychosis is about… even though our internal experiences try to indicate that they are aware of it’s nature… they are indeed, and unbelievably so, blind to it.

It hurts, but it’s humorous, to see people without psychotic experiences being so totally dumb… they prod in the dark because it’s their jobs, and a lot of them really do care… but they have no idea what they are dealing with most of the time… and it sucks that they are stuck in a position to be an authority on the matter… because they lack any level of relevant insight that helps. They are more inclined to treat the person as being physically sick… when psychological and spiritual approaches and attentions could profoundly accelerate a post-onset sufferer’s re-acclimation to a new life complete with it’s new challenges.

It’s more of a clash with classical expectations… the entire last generation before was never allowed any room to think their internal experience was important to any one else… it’s more what they did and what they were worth…

Now they can’t see past that… Most all of them have some pretty deep-seated misunderstandings… and they still can’t acknowledge that perhaps human beings fundamental needs should be re-evaluated…

It’s my opinion. ECT is barbaric and should only be used as last resort.

Neither does ECT really!!!