Very intelligent people make less effective leaders, according to their peers

Well said again! :smile: I once read that wisdom is, basically, how well you understand life and make decisions appropriate to your culture. But it’s definitely not easy to define that concept, either.

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Wisdom comes from experience. Experience comes from making mistakes.

You can grow old and never be wise… knowledge comes from experience and mistakes…though often not your own…

Trying to define a subjective word with logic and make it objective. Welp

All words are subjective. If you read about it, most words are actually notoriously difficult to define precisely - even simple words like “chair”.

A chair is a thing you sit on with a back and typically 4 legs.

That could be a sofa too. But a sofa is not a chair. The point is, the brain doesn’t understand words by using dictionary definitions.

It seats one person.

That could be a divan.

Looks like a couch to me

A divan is like a couch but for one person to sit or lay down on.

And now we have defined a divan

We haven’t. Not at all. Define “bird” and see if you understand my point now. Definitions are just approximations because words are understood subjectively.

We’re going around in circles lol

Chair, bird, ect are defined by their image in my mind.


Look, a recliner. It looks a bit like a couch, it’s for one person to sit or lay down on, but it’s not a divan.

Sort of. But that makes them subjective. Which means your argument about trying to define subjective words is pretty meaningless. (Almost) all words are subjective, and yet we try to define them.

My argument is that I found it funny that is what you guys were doing. I wasn’t trying to enter a serious conversation lol. I just pointed out what I saw you were doing because I thought it was funny. Whether or not that’s what you were really doing is idk on my part. I just laughed at what I saw lol

So do you read dictionaries for the lols?
Just kidding.
I thought you were trying to argue against the merit of defining words like wisdom and intelligence. Sorry. :wink:

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Except for those of us with spiky profiles. Where the sub test scores are more relevant than any overall measure of IQ.
I do accept that is not the case for the vast majority of people ie most don’t have spiky profiles.

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It was once accepted that the earth is flat. This test ‘measures’ some abilities but in many cases, these measurements are useless.

there is a big gap between “should” and “is”. Great artists do not benefit from the ability to make quick mathematical calculations, remember strings of characters, assign puzzles nor think in an abstract way.
Jackie Chan for example doesn’t seems like a bright guy from a perspective of intelligence, but he had succeeded in his career, he is healthy and famous, and I believe that his creations inspire younger audiences to practice martial arts which is awesome.

I’ve known some people who scored high in psychometric tests, you wouldn’t hear about them in the news because they wouldn’t accomplish anything significant in their lives. One of them was a close friend of mine, bright guy, but also childish, inconsistent, with a bad ability to manage risks and he also lacks motivation.

These anecdotal examples are showing the disparity between IQ scores and one’s ability to live a fulfilling life.

I would disagree with your statement about the stability of the IQ scores, simply because it depends on the things you have put you mind to before (duration of some months) the test. people can train themselves to score higher in these tests, the opposite may apply as well, an untrained mind will score lower.

You are right, the concept of “intelligence” might be somewhat meaningful for some stuff. I haven’t thought about it through fully before posting, I am in an emotional state right now.

Still, I do not believe that modern IQ tests achieve their purpose, far from it, they test a lot of irrelevant abilities which aren’t essential for everyday life and do not reflect one’s ability for success in many fields.