Thinking about quitting

I have made some good progress over the past 6 months. I have stayed on my medications (for the most part) the entire time. However, I keep thinking it might be better to quit taking medications and stop seeing both my pdoc and therapist. I have it in my mind that they are conspiring against me and that the medication is doing me harm.

I’ve brought this up before, but I’m really struggling. Any words of encouragement would be helpful.

Thanks.

I would muster enough courage and tell your psychiatrist.

You probably need an adjustment on your meds, telling him or her will solve your problem.

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Nobody is conspiring against you, I can tell you that much. It could be a sign of delusional thinking or paranoia so quitting your meds right now probably isn’t a good idea…

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MI can be sooo confusing at times!! Please talk to you dr, as others have mentioned. Stopping treatment will be disasterous. You have friends here who have been where you are and are trying to reason with you for your wellbeing. Please listen. You are not alone!

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You definatly need to talk to your doctor. Do not quit your medication. It sounds like your medication, although probably helping, is not working well enough for you. You might need a change in the dosage of your medication or try a new one. I know that when you have paranoid thoughts, and delusions, it does not matter how much people say it is not real, but trust me they are not conspiring against you.

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That’s not a good idea. You could end up arrested or in the hospital

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For me, that stability is an ephemeral state that only happens when you keep pumping the meds into your system to keep sz at bay.

I’ve gone years on vacation from meds in my 20’s and if I could go back I would never go off because I failed so many classes, lost so much time, lost jobs, even when I wasn’t “psychotic.” The pills help surprisingly with the disorganization in thoughts and behaviors that comes with sz.

I didn’t go full out positive symptoms BUT I failed classes, my worst nightmare. I started sleeping too much. I started missing classes. I started getting irritable, started getting disorganized with appointments, with life…I came crawling back to the meds, but it was too LATE I had failed classes and had to get a medical excuse letter. That failing grade is still on my transcripts, though. :frowning:

Please don’t go off! Think of how you are now and you were, would you be willing to go back to how you were? I wasn’t, went back on pills. Best wishes!

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Yes, I agree with everybody else. Don’t make any rash decisions. Talk to your doc. No one is conspiring against you. If you leave your doc and therapist you will be leaving a primary source of support. I’ve been on meds for 35 years and I’m still going strong, I think the jury is still out on whether meds hurt us on not, I don’t seem to notice any serious illnesses caused to me by meds. I think you are asking for big trouble if you make such life changing decisions all at once. The number one cause of relapse is going off of your meds. I’ll repeat, no one is conspiring against you, it is just the opposite, they are trying to help you. That’s what they’re paid to do.

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I used to go through that cycle all the damn time. Then one day I found a med that actually worked well for me and I’ve not had those struggles since then.

I suggest you talk to your doctor about your meds maybe not being the right ones for you.

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Just know a lot of people do not treat schizos nicely because they are part-time psychotics. They follow orders from voices to go stalk people called thought broadcasting. May see some really ugly churches as theirs theirs hear it too and say people on disability pay after mental care are ‘stealing’…

I would not get involved in following orders from voices, as most end up in jail or crazy for good. Can ask the voices why you are hearing it, may just be told to avoid someone you know. If told to do something weird, is just bad joke.

Lastly, need to know sometimes internal voice is hijacked, start to hear unrelated words/phrases appear. Is called thought insertion. Is just bad joke, always bad timing and probably embarrassing. Kids and old folks do this around schizo cases sometimes and have no clue they are upsetting. Better to ignore anyone who sounds possessed.

Other cases: Some try to avoid any situation where the voices start. Just leave if voices start and you are out in public. Do not follow orders from voices. May find voices happen in certain places or near specific people so can tell who to avoid after a while. Some had voices stop after this, can take years.

Other choice is you had an argument with someone or threats made, then you had nervous. Quit talking to all you met through these and do nothing confrontational, only quit talking to them. If stalked, say ‘we are good’ and never speak to them again. Do not discuss them much unless you need to protect yourself. Do not talk to self aloud or follow orders, may not experience paranoid period where strangers bother you. If you already had problems with crazy strangers, may try moving and just keep quiet about the past – can get new start with professional employment if you can handle it. NEVER DISCUSS MENTAL CARE OR DIAGNOSIS. Use of new mental care could put a stranger attack on you for doing therapy or discussing anything negatives, better to keep in touch with old mental care and travel back/forth if you want meds/sleep stuff. Or you NEVER say much to new psych doctor except I’m fine and would like refill of ‘’__________". If you have lots of buried memories doing flashbacks, can be case of spending time with wrong wealthy person and is form of PTSD called selective amnesia. DO NOT follow orders from psych doctor who tells you memories are false or you may be sent back to be sex assaulted/battered, cops lock you up as crazy, mental care refuses to admit anything inappropriate happened and you will be harassed about being a ■■■■ by lots of people (maybe in multiple locations). Any mental care that uses selective amnesia terms should be ditched or can be VERY harmful…just look for new care and cancel next appointment when you find something else. May have 10 years+ of flashbacks to ignore but that’s what happens…

Delusional only means they mental care will not discuss it. Mental care NEVER gives information to help you cope with ‘social problems’. I strongly recommend you read up on ‘targeted individual’ stories so you will see how some people will treat you…Rest of talk about government out to get you is kind of the case, civil rights are merely a sham and no one cares what happens to a poor human ‘creature’ any more unless it will make attorney lots of money. But some attorneys like to be able to do anything to anyone so see the problem with ‘blind justice’, no such thing.

Remember, never get angry with mental care or you will be throw into psych eval hold after arrest in front of neighbors and held for as long as psych doctor can justify. This is false incarceration at your own expense until you lose your job, housing and cops can throw you out. If you have a trespasser, no point in making police report unless everything is stolen and you need police report to use renters insurance. Is best to keep possessions to minimum if you are having lots of trouble with this. Move an you will be introduced to more thought broadcasters so you know who hears it and your stuff snooped, at least. Sometimes an initiation ritual is pulled on some, even church people so keep mouth shut and go through it quietly and friendly.

You may be approached by pickup who is talking about something private to you like parrot of your thoughts for a moment. These are GOOD person to try talking to a bit, especially if the person is professional level employee who treats people okay. Lots of first marriages/relationships are introduced in this manner. Person knows a lot about local crazy situation/coping and how to be okay. ONly okay to date one of these as long as he/she doesn’t insist you are a headcase. You get either good one or all weirds, so have to experience…These people are ‘conditional’ and will drop you if voices demand it later, which happens a lot.

So, many come out of slight case of schizo by getting shacked up or married. Will keep away some sex harassment situations that try to land new schizo cases and get you fired, common in some cities and unemployment is ALWAYs denied. Will keep social harassers away…Also keeps some trespassing away. Would NOT move any longer unless there are two of you or you know a local, some small towns even are making whores of women who answered job ad to work in country, driven nuts and drug dealer put on her. Cops lock her up on psych holds to shut her up…Small towns are worse than suburbs of city btw…

Lastly, may see some ‘hissy’ males who throw a fit to humiliate you. Devil made his as he was told who to screw to get rich. Devil asks for favors later. This one will ruin you if you hang around.

Church can be devil worshiper people trying to get voices to stop and follow lots of orders from wrong dirty businessmen to do unethical stuff, screw their own family and employer. If you try one of these big non-denominational churches, you could be stalked for years by people who will keep you out of the good jobs. If you do stay, some of these will threaten harm to family if you leave…Some of the denominational mainstream churches can even be really unokay, screw new people, insults and do initiations…See any 180 degree people, scoot out the door. I would NEVER even put down my name if I visit as I’ve had the sales pitch even follow me home…Can be okay dropping into any kind of church service you want twice a year for services if you want – reading at home or watch it online won’t bite you. Thinking you can meet some friends here? Could be worst mistake a low or middle income person could make. People are a nut who would screw their own family and only okay if your wallet is fat. Meetup.com can be fine place to meet people or activity groups but some cities have so many wealthies making crazy slaves to serve them, may regret it badly.

See what you think if you want too go off meds…Could try seroquel which is great sedative affect to help you sleep and just be okay for a while if you want. Cut into bits and take at bedtime…50 mg is good start. Few side effects and low cost. Will shut up DRs.

Lots of people are ‘not self directed’ and follow orders from voices, some of the mental care hears it sometimes too…Lots of situations can look creepy. If you see a lot of people following orders from voices obviously and mess someone up, that is when you need to scram…It’s usually to catch some tail or make new slave of someone they want to use. If you don’t end up hearing more voices after, you are VERY BLESSED. Mental care usually cannot do forced hold unless you are confrontational will care, you show desire to harm self or others…The former is VERY much up to mental care discretion so NEVER even try constructive criticism as the care can bust you to bits with forced psych hold in front of neighbors cops arrest you, can lose job and housing. Do not make another appointment if mental care isn’t working, just call and talk to a couple other psych drs to check out other options. If using sliding fee clinic, ask the receptionist if you can have appointment with someone else.

Info I shared will probably keep you sane. Good luck!

it seems like a delusion…
keep seeing your shrink.
they could lower the dose for you if appropriate.
glad you are feeling better and making progress. :heart:
take care :alien:

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Some of your fears are valid, but it’s a pros and cons sort of thing, and it’s best to discuss it with your therapist before making any decisions. Medications often do come with side effects, so feeling like your medication is “causing you harm” can be a valid feeling. But some people are much worse without meds. Psychotic episodes actually damage the brain, so for some people, not taking meds means risking damage to their brain. Few things in life are perfect without any downsides, so it’s normal to have feelings about the cons of something, and not just the pros. But it’s also important to weigh the pros and cons, and therapists can help with that. There may even be a valid reason why you feel untrusting of your therapist, and talking about it could help figure things out and get it squared away. Like some therapists try to make too much eye contact in my experience and it trips me out, which can lead to feelings of paranoia.

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You’ll regret it later if you give up…I like that people are saying that you should talk to your doctor about these paranoia’s

Kate xxx

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I’ve seen enough people get off their med’s to know that it usually is a disaster. Any time I’ve gotten off the med’s it was a disaster. I don’t like my med’s. I regard them as a necessary evil. I know what happens when I get off them.

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I ran out of meds a week or two ago, trying to get more, they wanted to give me 600mg seroquel but that’s a joke, but difficulties arise without some small amount, so definitely don’t stop the med, as far as doctors conspiring against you, that’s my belief as well so it’s hard to trust them right now because she is unknown to us

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