The reality is I still think

There’s some reality to Alien. He’s an evil spirit and in my religion I am taught devils exist. Don’t want to elaborate as I don’t want to start religious debate but if I am to believe, then Alien has some truth to him, and Sarah too. For which I am relieved. I guess that dream I had was just a dream… It’s not a delusion. For some it may sound like one but not for me.

I mean, how do I explain inserted thoughts? They aren’t mine so who else? It all points to the spirits out there. Companions.

Sorry if I disappointed anyone. It was just my mind thinking overtime. But my religion has a say in my life.

I’m doing better now, not so depressed anymore. I think it was the married life stress and relationship problems and the stress my husband has undergone has affected me too. I’m feeling better. But still looking forward to seeing the pdoc on Wednesday. :blush:

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So your religion teaches you should accept being targeted by devils and let them mess with your mind for decades?!

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This is the nature of god religions. The one i grew up in i was taught the same.

I was told things like “dont open that door to your mind or the devil will come in”

Stuff like that. Its a little harmful to hear when your growing up.

That and the forever burning if you dont believe lol

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Thats so dumb. I hate all religions.

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Yeah i used to obsessively ask for forgiveness or accept i believed cuz i was always worried about going to hell.
It probably contributed to my ocd behavior.

Now im a much more free bird :bird: :blush:

Now i just take a generalized view of hopefully we go somewhere nice after we are gone here. Because it feels good to know you will see family again.

Thats a good way of coping with loss. Knowing you may see them again.

Good to keep some hope in life instead of turning 100% to a non theist view.

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Good thing religion is losing its power over ppl with time. Back in the old days ppl were much more brainwashed and controlled by religion. My grand mother told me religious leaders in her time used to sell lands in heaven. Religion preys on weak and vulnerable ppl imo

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Lol ppl really believed and paid huge amounts of money to buy lands in heaven. Big scammers.

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Yeah theres a lot of charlatans out there preying on vulnerable people.

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I don’t hate my priest but I find what he’s done to himself is extremely dumb. He basically killed himself. He refused to believe in science and the vaccine, he didn’t believe covid is real. He died from covid. He would have survived if he took the vaccine. He thought God will protect him of covid.

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Yeah its a challenging thing to convince when someone is entrenched in a certain way of thinking.
I have a bunch of relatives that wont get the vaccine for similar reasons

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Belief in hell is illogical, even if you’re religious.

Before I got sz, the only Mediumship I believed in were people who heard only nice things from their voices. If their voices were evil in any way, I chalked it up to mental illness.

Now that I’ve been through sza, I’m more inclined to think it’s all illness, but I still maintain that Hell is illogical and anybody who believes in it is shooting themselves in the foot. Think about it, would you be happy in heaven if you knew that right under your feet, several members from your family were in ovens screaming for eternity? That’s not logical, you’d immediately try to save them.

You can’t be punished for what you do eternally if you’re stuck with an ape brain like we (all humans) are.

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My voices push me down when I lean in that direction and push me forward when my thoughts are better. I’m thinking lately it’s not necessary to be a total skeptic. I’ve proven my main voice, the Alter I mention all the time, is not God and I don’t feel like Him right now myself.

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When I started taking Zyprexa all my voices turned nice. They don’t insult me or command me anymore. They do narrate my actions some time, also they tell me everything’s fine or they love me or I’m great. It’s ridiculous how much of an opposite this is from my first few years with the disorder where the voices were always cruel.

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Those beliefs though defy logic. Its a magical idea even if its a dark one. If your brought up with the idea what else would you know?

These are tough ones lol

Tf this thread still open, it should be closed for sure lmfao, literally hating people for being religious. Sure sounds open-minded to me lmao.

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This whole debate is making me uncomfortable. I realize that those that are religious are probably in the minority here but I could see that they could take offense at this debate. We really aren’t supposed to have religious debates either for or against religion. I’m split on whether or not I should shut it down at this point because some of this may help @Hadeda , but like I said, it may be making those that are religious uncomfortable here . The no religious debates really should really be going both ways, both for and against.

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If your faith improves your health, you’re doing it right. If your faith actually makes your illness worse, that’s a problem.

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I think the key is to talk about it in a respectful way (ie. Dont say such and such beliief is stupid or rediculous) but to talk about it in a way to disarm the power of such a belief so that it isnt affecting ones mental health.

I try to be neutral about it and talk in a recovery from ‘hallucinations’ sorta perspective if i can.

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I dont think anyone here hates people that are religious. They just might not like what it has done to someone they know.
Theres good and bad sides to everything

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I felt pretty attacked

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