The lowest of the low

Drug dealers. I’m reading the book Trainspotting and I think about people who live to sell drugs. And IMO they’re just the scum of the Earth, the lowest of the low. They don’t read, they don’t admire nature, they don’t care…they just sit around all day watching TV, carrying guns, making drug deals. And they kill people. It really is the lowest of the low. Hey somebodies gonna do it…after all, there’s a black market out there to be sought. I have more respect to those who manufacture drugs such as marijuana growers and chemists in labs, at least they put some effort into it. But drug dealing, fake or real gangster types who carry guns, make deals, sit around all day, do nothing, are just a waste of space. I have so much I want to learn. I want to read Sigmund Freud’s theories on psychoanalysis and other books about recovery and philosophy and wisdom. But drug dealers? There’s something wrong with those people. I guess some people don’t choose that lifestyle, it chooses them, but there’s gotta be a way out?? There should be. INB4 “They’re salesmen, who happen to do it illegally”…heroin, cocaine, crack, meth dealers…get a life will ya? Btw I’m really enjoying this book thanks turtle/B

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I mean, I used to sell tons of drugs and I never killed anyone. I also read alot of books, paid for some college, gave my little bro and mom some money, and paid all my expenses. It’s an addiction just like anything else…

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I also started a successful business, worked 10-12 hours a day, and put up some cripple friends in a townhouse that I rented with drug money.

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I can’t believe I’m standing up for dealers, but I had a few friends who dealt when I was in high school and university. They had interests, one was an amazing artist, very kind, very nature oriented, he had the gentlest hands.

He also was somewhat principled - cut people off if they showed signs of starting to get addicted, never pressured anyone. I was thinking about trying LSD and we talked about it, he told me he didn’t think it was a good idea for me (I was pretty unstable, a lot of depression and bizarre delusions) but that if I was going to try no matter what, he’d prefer to supervise in case I needed help.

I didn’t end up doing it, and he pointed out that I seemed like I was tripping all the time naturally.

Anyway, I think that many are exactly what you describe. But in all things, beware black and white thinking :two_hearts:

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You at least have goals and stuff. I didn’t mean to stereotype all drug dealers. I actually meant to put in my post that “not all drug dealers are like this” but I forgot. But the ones that are hollywoodized and in books, like in trainspotting I just have issues with. Sorry for stereotyping people who sell drugs…but as I get older I question the ethics of selling heroin and stuff. People who do this ■■■■ for a lifelong career, it’s ■■■■■■ up that it has to happen. And I don’t really think they’re always to blame, it’s society. No hard feelings I hope.

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@fractaleyes i know you’re a good person, I’ve sold drugs before but not much. i was a wannabee drug dealer. I saw the thrill involved as an addiction too, and getting the money too as an appeal. But you don’t want to be a lifelong drug dealer like in the movies, I know you don’t. sorry for stereotyping.

Ugh, Jon, I just looked my guy up to see what he’s up to, he’s a professor and he’s still as beautiful as he was when I knew him and ugh, high school crush all over again :joy_cat: I hate my life!

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Lol i like how you call me Jon now

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It’d be an interesting discussion in an Ethics Philosophy class-----The morality behind drug dealing

like any issue, there’s two sides to it.

“Funny thing wis, jist before this, ah remembered boastin this ah’d niver OD’d in ma puff. THir’s a first time fir everything. It wis Swanney’s fault. His gear’s normally cut tae ■■■■, so yalways bung that wee bit mair intae the cooking spoon tae compensate. Then whit does the ■■■■ dae? He hits ye wi some pure ■■■■. Literally takes yir breath away. Dafft ■■■■ that he is, Swanney must’ve gave thum ma Ma’s address. So efter a few days in the hoespital gittin ma breathin stabilised, here ah am”

-Trainspotting paragraph that triggered this thread in me

I didn’t know you preferred it before, I’m super cautious about using people’s names on the forum. Once I knew, of course I’ll call you Jon!

I’m going through this guy’s twitter, he’s a journalist too, for some really major publications, strong feminist, everything about him is perfect :sob:

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The worst is drug dealers who go to NA (Narcotics Anonymous) meetings, and go around offering drugs to people who are trying to get sober. now THAT is crossing the line, and something you would never do fractaleyes. But people do that.

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just look at Breaking Bad - it shows them as having lives outside of drug dealing. People are people. You never know what they have gone through or why they are where they are in life. I always tend to have an open mind and think the best to a fault. Most people can see the bad in someone way before I do- like months to years before i do. I am always seeing the good and the potential.

no hard feeling jon but we have to be more open as we are judged oftentimes without getting to know us. I realize that myself more than ever with my TD symptoms. People look at me like I am dumb - or well…spasmoid which I am right now. But that isn’t me or the me I want to be.

Keeping drugs illegal has made them so profitable that it is very hard for some people to resist the temptation to sell them. There was this policeman on tv on a program about the illegal drug trade, and he was saying that because there was a seventeen-thousand percent profit margin in the drug trade drugs were unstoppable. I also saw a story about this guy who’d just gotten out of jail and who’d gotten a job. One of his friends asked him to deal some drugs for a little while before he went to work. In four hours he’d made four-thousand dollars. What kind of entry level job can compete with that? Personally, I think the drug trade would be easier to control if we legalized drugs.

The lowest of the lowest Jon are those who sell out for drugs. But there are differences too. I just read about a woman who used to borrow her underage daughter to a dealer for heroin and she is in jail now.
I mean…those people are not devilish in their essence…but drug addiction really does turn people into monsters.

I agree drug addiction can make you do some messed up stuff. But I think the mindset is already there, the drugs just bring it out. There are bad people that never do drugs.

It’s all good man. There’s lots of people that sell crack, heroin, meth, etc. Some of my friends did. Did I agree with what they were doing? Hell na! But at their core, they were good people. They were just a little lost, as we ALL have been at some point or another. I guess the mentality was, “they’re gonna buy it from someone, might as well be me”. It’s selfish, but everyone is selfish at times. Look at docs… they prescribe drugs all the time (aka drug dealing). Do those meds help people? Sometimes. But often they hurt people too. It’s all in the Game my man.

The dealers around here have moved into the commercial sector as well as the black market.
Why not? Looks legit and then keep selling out the back door.

There’s probably almost no commercial places that don’t have some sort of gang ties to them

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