What about me? 
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I agree. I see nothing wrong in being sz. I see no defect. Nothing negative. I see differences. There is no logical reason to be negative about anything. I am like that. That is not how the World works thou. I dont worry about the World. Everyone has a journey. Things are meant to be. You are supposed to see that yet you can choose not to care as that will keep you in piece as opposed to harming your well being by reacting to it. It is like a test.
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I havent had the opportunity to read your posts. I will pay more attention @Kxev. I’ve liked some of your posts but I dont remember which now. ooompfhhh indicates eloquency.
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This forum’s very existence is due to the fact that people suffer from schizophrenia. Not only the patients themselves, but also their relatives. And all of them require insights and help. There is your “negative”.
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that is not my negative. i dont suffer anything. never have. doctors say people suffer from sh.t. I disagree with this completely. I say cut the wipping and make the best with what you have. there is no wipping here. Like i said before, i dont intend to preach. if you believe in suffering that is fine. i dont.
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i dont mean what i said in an angry way. i dont wipp. i understand each one is different but i guarantee you. you better fight than wipp. wipping will do you no good. fighting may take you to a better place. bob marley: ‘where there is a will there is a way’
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Thank you for sharing your individual experience. That you are only concerned with your own experience and dont share the communities experience of suffering saves you from being called the F word by this lone sz who interprets its meaning that way.
This is a definite complex I have and it is intetwoven between related ideas. The material analogy only goes so far and relates a type of cohesiveness that is instrumental and sometimes persecutory to nonadherents and outsiders. Someone who is pillar of community or instrument of a leader, joins together in function as a team or band, is weak alone, or views those who are alone as weak are among those that fit the analogy. But i connected other ideas such as between social fascist and my interpretation of the essence of a social democrat which in short is someone swayed by majority opinion or social movements over their own self interest and instinct. My use is also ironic as when someone is bigoted towards gay people i consider it the f word to buddy up to them and carry on with the homophobia. Saying something that affirms your individuality in all situations is fortifying. My complex even crossed over into my interpretation of irony and analogy that those who will act the same are analogous and the f word and those who will go against the social determinants of the situation are ironic. Anyway there is even more to say about all the things Ive thought on this topic but thats all for now.
I understand your point always excellently put. I share the suffering of all the members. That is one of the reasons i am here. i just dont call it suffering. i dont like the word. we are descendants of warriors as our ancestors had to survive lawless worlds. we got warrior dna. suffering is not accepted in the warrior code. but i share the experiences and if you like to call it suffering it is fine with me. i genuinely want to help and be helped.
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Definitely got to be careful with the use of words. People will frame sz in different ways. You can look at it as representing something important relationally to other things or you can look at it as just an illness and suffering. I look at it on a fuller spectrum, I think, where for instance viewing it as suffering is on one end which legitimizes treatment practices and on the other end an individual experience of the human condition inbetween individual and collective realites that includes the internal world of the mind and position it puts you in society and in relation to others who just view it as suffering, or myriad other ways, who contribute innocently and blamelessly to the experience of suffering.
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