Successful Schizophrenia: The Shamans Path

I suppose nowadays this should go in ‘Unusual beliefs’ since it isn’t so mainstream, but in the distant past it was.
And it was what helped me cope with numerous issues, both ones that could be considered mental illnesses and outside traumas.
I believe in Jesus, but with a more shamanic view and practice than most churches do…with a connection to nature and energies, and the exploration of both inner workings of the soul/mind/spirit and the external forces both seen and unseen that affect our lives…

http://www.successfulschizophrenia.org/stories/nightsky.html

"1991 was the beginning of my research and investigation into the area of what I refer to as the world of the Acute Sensitive. I was living in a little coastal town south of Sydney, Australia, in what was rumored to be a haunted house. Soon after having moved in my moods and thought processes started to change, I had feeling of being haunted, possessed and at times would find myself waking up in the middle of the night hearing voices–other voices–not my own, at least they didn’t seem to be.

I knew that there was a cousin in my family that was diagnosed with schizophrenia and I assumed I was heading down that avenue too. A local healer invited me to come and have a healing session. He mentioned that there was some writings that I might be interested in. The healing itself made little impact, but the essence of the writings still live in my memory to this day. A channeler from Sweden received that the mental health system was going to move through great changes in understanding the world of the mentally ill to a far more holistic and spiritual perspective.

From that moment on, many things in my life started to change. I began to sit in meditation and confront these energies that were tormenting me. It wasn’t so much like a ghost visiting, and tearing up the place, It was more like an invasion of the mind, emotions and spirit. I spent much timesitting in negotiation with whatever dark energy I came across, and what I learnt was that fear and fighting were the two most useless tools. Neither of them worked to help me in dealing with these visiting energies. Each week I would teach drama and movement classes, and then get on the train to Sydney to spend as much time as I could in the National Library looking up books and documentary films on the subject of schizophrenia. There was agreat deal of information from the psychiatric perspective, but very little from any other point of view. I traveled to England and America. Again, I scoured the book shops to see if there was anything that would tell me more than the traditional left brain view of mental illness.

There was nothing revolutionary apart from the writings of C.G. Jung and Stanislav Grof. There was little that didn’t lace itself with medical jargon and terms that I needed a psychiatry dictionary to understand. I thought maybe I was looking in the wrong area for my answers. I went back in history to see how the “mentally ill” were treated before the advent oforthodox medicine.

Religion played a big part in what they believed was the source of the suffering–the devil and his fallen angels. To hear voices you were either a chosen prophet or under the hand of Lucifer. This I found hard to stomach. I would not say that what was happening to me was the work of the devil, and believe me I’m no prophet!

Further back, I discovered that the indigenous people of the earth dealt with their Acutely Sensitive members with much more respect than modern mandoes. The most positive information was from transpersonal psychology, parapsychology, and shamanic sources. I realized that the way I was working with my inner world was very similar to how the Shamans worked (without the ethnobotanical approach).

In many indigenous tribes the Acute Sensitive would be under the instruction of the Medicine wo/man or shaman/ess. The Shaman’s role is to assist the sensitive in working within the spirit world. In some cases the Shaman may perform a type of exorcism to discharge the discarnate entities surrounding the person in crisis. It is understood that the key problem is the fragmentation of the core self (the central seat of the soul). The villagers would take care of their needs, as they were not able to perform their normal tasks. Food, clothing, and shelter would be provided by the community and slowly, slowly, the sensitive would be given guidance by the shaman to walk in the world of spirit without coming to any harm. They recognized that there is more than one dimension where both light and dark beings reside. The lesson is to not stop the voices so much as work with them in a way that you are in the control seat rather than being controlled by the energies tormenting you.

In third world countries the acutely sensitive souls are rarely ignored or shunned from society. They are seen as specially blessed because these people live in the world of the spirit more than in the world of the mundane. They are learning to find balance and are allowed to find it naturally. It is not something to be fixed, it is something to be mastered and used."

There are other articles worth reading on the site

http://www.successfulschizophrenia.org/articles.html

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Polite disagreement here. There was nothing pleasant for me about living in a state of abject terror of what aliens would do to me and others. Anything that would further my engagement with those delusions and symptoms strikes me as an act of cruelty. I repeat: I am so so SO thankful for medications.

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You see the guy in this video?

Imagine if he was a spirit in your head.

Understand my “symptoms” better now?!

AAAAHHHHHHHHHHH! Somebody killll meeeeeee!

I’m not saying I didn’t have some terrifying experiences, especial when younger.
When a fully 3D buffalo head appeared in my room around age 7 - 8 I completely freaked out in terror and ran crying to Mom saying there was a monster in my room. This was met by her trying to insist I was sleeping and had a nightmare even though I’d been fully awake with the lights on reading when I sensed the presence of the creature. The creature was still there as i ran from my room…obviously it wasn’t a dream…

It wasn’t until I was in my 20s and learned that being part Native American that is a normal and natural vision for someone to have if they are being guided into a shamanic path…if it happened today it might surprise me if it catches me off guard but I certainly would not be terrified, or run. I would face it and speak to it.

Now as far as aliens I fully understand they can do some terrifying things. My experience with them has been good. I have been harassed 2 or 3 times by gray aliens but have beaten them every time, like I have the upper hand.
But I do understand some people go through the abductions, abuses, and negative messages and it seems to be out of their control.
My other alien experiences were with angelic type humanoid beings…these were all good and a vast learning experience.

the thing with the shamanic path, or any deep spiritual practice that is not to be mistaken for religion, ritual, or any organized sect, is that I gained the ability to deal with things when they come up, not cringe in fear with no understanding of what was going on, or to automatically assume its hallucination.

I know there are hallucinations, and I know there are external entities and energy that can affect us. One cannot simply try to lump everything into one category or another. This is where the shamans path trains and learns how to tell the difference between hallucination and real entities, and how to deal with both in positive ways…

PS: Hallucinations do not do things you ask them to, make things appear that are witnessed by others, or give you precise information about future events or knowledge you never had…this has happened repeatedly in my life, so that I know I am mainly dealing with a realm of energy and entities that are not always seen by everyone.

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Ok…
And I’ve had far worse craziness, mocking, tricking, and repetitive dialogue… I even had music similar to the beginning through telepathy (electronic)…
So I would tell the guy to shut up and get a life, be quiet and let me listen to the music…maybe I would talk real fast in circles around him, faster and more repetitive than he, but also switching subject matter so I am all over the place… I would dig into his soul with provocative questions and ultimatums, ask him if he knew Jesus and what would be the repercussions for killing and burying someone, and being such a lost basket case without depth, drifting in the lower darkness, beset by limited knowledge, and no connection to the source of all living…how would he feel if he was the one in the hole and someone was singing that to him and he couldn’t stop it…imagine that…become the voice in his head and run him to ground…

Be persistent and if its a negative or demonic type voice hit them with their final exit, their complete destruction, and go into detail of what that entails, be imaginative and they will want nothing to do with you…since you will be scaring them with vivid descriptions of their ultimate end…and always give them the opportunity to repent and return to God and the path of light… they probably won’t, but you have done your part…

I’m intrigued by Ibogaine therapy under a Shamans care. I saw a documentary, and it seemed like a cure all practice w/high success rates.

Illegal in US… and not even permitted like Ayahausca and peyote in the Native church…
I don’t use any of that stuff…have a little in the past…with mixed results including a rather strange unguided datura journey.
For me I don’t see the need in using these plants because I already have the ability to ‘see’ without them. Not that they aren’t beneficial for some. they also can unlock doors of interdimensional perception that can be left open in some cases.
By far my best and most profound experiences have been completely strait/sober.

THAT I will agree with. :smile:

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@e_lunaseer Do you take prescription medications?

The plants tend to let you into the lower realms…by that I mean it might not always be a bad experience, but it is mostly earthy… in some cases it can take you under the earth and be hellish. usually it gives you greater perceptions of nature, energies, maybe some entities…or inner understandings, synchronicities, some telepathy…
I never had a profound celestial experience with plants or things of that nature…
In a strait and sober state I have been off world, more than once, both within and outside of our solar system.
I wrote recently about the 7 realms and the 100,000 local universes and multi-universes that Darksith had mentioned. I experienced these things way before i ever read about them in the exact detail I had seen in my journeys.

One strange one however seemed off world, but was it? In 1983 I traveled to the planet Tantura in an apocalyptic vision. There were beautiful blue lagoons .
But then I discovered this many years later…didn’t know about it at all…maybe what actually happened is i time traveled to the past before any civilization was there, or I had a vision of the future when civilization had been laid waste and it had returned to nature… that lagoon near the top is pretty much something I saw…never been there, had never seen a pic of it, and didn’t even know a place called Tantura existed. maybe my experience of flying through the stars and approaching a planet that looked somewhat like earth was actually some sort of time travel…

Other times I know I have been off world though

Shaman experiences can be quite…

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No, I do not, at all.

Wow, well thank you for the advice. I plan to be there as soon as possible.

Could be it’s all in the point of view, if you are educated. M ay be I’m being nosy and off-subject - Do you support yourself financially?

I am educated but scholastic education while it has its benefits is not what has really helped me too much in the world. My highest paying jobs didn’t even require a high school diploma ! Some didn’t even ask, and some didn’t even have an application to fill out.

I get a small income/pension which is about the same as I’d get on SSI, maybe less, but just a little less. Enough to get by. I did work my butt off for 5 years to be able to get my own property…sometimes 16 hour days, and sometimes 6 - 7 days a week for awhile…

The few times I have taken them was not that I sought them but they were suggested. Felt like a zombie and if not a zombie i could tell each time it was doing things in my body and brain upsetting the natural balance of things so that I felt ‘off’ in a sense…not off as in high but off center. Haldol, latuda, saphris, trazadone…
I have seen a few people who were real zombies, especially those poor Thorazine patients I saw years ago, and many people sleep 14 - 16 hours a day on the newer meds.
If I did that this house would get run down fast…it’s hard to keep up with as it is, requiring daily work, some hard work. Even when i took Tramadol for pain a few years ago it made me a zombie and i’d walk around looking at things that needed done, but not motivated to lift a finger to do them. They wouldn’t give me Oxycodone or anything else like i had in 2011. Tramadol didn’t even take much of the pain away, just made me zone out. Oxy took the pain away and I was filling 50 lb buckets of dirt and carrying them 500’ to where I needed to fill in.
Then again i wouldn’t want to get addicted taking that sort of stuff.

Yeah I’m on a cock-tail that I don’t want to be on, but I know it’s best right now. I don’t know how I’ll overcome otherwise. I’m experiencing, learning, and coping everyday w/the hope of relying on my own conscience as the prime source of my acceptance in the near future. You never know.

I don’t mean educated in the academic sense. More self educated in various areas you seem to have an interest in. It’s good to know that you can work if you need to. And draw your own income. Also manage without medication.

Yes, I have that much more than formal education, though I did go to college for a year.
I study and research a lot of things and have done so since I was about 6 years old…Plus you learn what you pick up hands on along the way, which is why I could build my own house, do the electric and everything.

Not everyone’s hallucinations are spiritual or religious in nature, though. Mine, for example, concerned government conspiracies. A religious interpretation wouldn’t explain these off-the-wall theories about secret societies and wars and government conspiracies. I, as another example, believed my friend was a Russian spy. There was no deeper truth to it — for me— just a plain psychotic (untrue) delusion.

True. much of that (if it isn’t really happening) comes from our extreme exposure to media that loves to portray conspiracies on every corner.
Some people in organized religion (mainly Christian) speak of the Illuminati, satanic bloodline, and antichrist conspiracies all tied together.
that said, the govt probably deliberately influences hollywood and the media to produce myriads of movies, tv shows and literature about conspiracies as a smokescreen for the real conspiracies that do take place.
Some does actually happen, but not all the stuff…like lots of people thinking cameras are in their house.
Unless you are under surveillance for something BIG, I highly doubt anyone puts cameras in peoples houses. Perverts DO put them in Starbucks rest rooms though… that was real.