is it “us” or “them?”
when i have trouble socially (like every day) i tend to blame them instead of myself. too much stigma/prejudice etc.
what’s your take on it please.
judy 
Can you expand a bit what you mean please
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I’m not sure exactly what you mean - do you mean mentally healthy vs mentally ill?
It’s probably a little of both.
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To me, there is no us and them.
I avoid sticking labels on people’s forehead.
I am not my illness. I suffer from it and I fight it. I don’t let it dictate things.
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yes. thanks for asking. judy
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yes. i find myself sometimes in a crowd of all kinds of people, however, the ones who are considered special and talented and wonderful tend to pick on me as if i need their discipline. my view is it is their prejudice and stigma that causes this it HURTS.
judy
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Yes, that was what I was going to say.
I once heard this woman say that the key to living for her was learning to love herself no matter what. That doesn’t mean you can excuse everything you do, but you still say you came by the impulse honestly, and you’re not going to let yourself put heavy blame on yourself for things that really are not that important.
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My take is: I think society could be kinder. Life is very competitive right now in most industries, and often people aren’t kind to those who aren’t as smart in general skills or social skills. School and work environments are very dog-eat-dog, and learning how to be supportive and encouraging to others is not something that gets taught often, if at all.
Some people can be downright nasty. I do what I can to read books on social skills and reread them, because my memory is bad. So, depending on the situation, the fault could be mine or theirs, or even a bit of both. I’ve gotten good at writing, and often people think the online version of me is better than in the offline world. This hurts, but maybe I’ll find a way to be better in the offline world. Gotta keep trying.
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Dont blame Yourself. The Stigma is real - dont let them think its your fault.
Its no bloody surprise a good proportion of us Sz’s Isolate Ourselves.
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You can learn to read body language and function at an acceptable level in social situations, but it takes a lot of work and the socializing itself is very tiring afterwards.
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for me this was a productive ‘conversation’ with you guys and i thank you for that.
judy 
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