Yeah I could see that as similar to masking, and autistic people can also have flat affects, though I honestly wonder since sz/a is also a neurodivergence it would lead to having to mask to act normal
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Yeah true. I guess the only option is to see what my pdoc thinks. Cause ive only seen her a few times so far. I feel that even some pdocs would be stumped about wether i might have it or not. It would explain a lot though if i have it. Especially since i have no postivie symtpoms of sza for so long but still struggle so hard with everything. Especially anything involving other people.
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Thanks for your input hiero. Its nice to hear back from people when making a thread.
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No problem, thanks for the interesting thread. If you want you should update here what your pdoc thinks if you do end up asking.
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Should i comment on this exact thread after my appointment or start a new one with the results? Because i know its frowned upon to bring old posts up again at a later date.
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Whatever you are more comfortable with
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There are different definitely similarities
My psychiatrist told me schizophrenia is a neurodevelopmental disorder with early signs and symptoms going back to early childhood so it probably does share symptoms with autism. I wonder sometimes if i have autism too.
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I got āstrong likelihoodā of autism
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I once thought I had Autism/Asperger but confirmed Iām just SZA. They were able to tell very quickly.
One time, she said I donāt have Autism because Iām āreflective.ā Didnāt go into more detail, but I think thatās referring to detecting external sources of input. For example when a new source of input arrives, the Autistic wonāt see that right away (instead scanning around first).
Another time, he said ānot Aspergerā after he asked me a question. My head turned to the right immediately to the speaker. There was no delay in reacting to source of input.
I donāt think there are a lot of similarities between SSD and ASD. Not to say itās impossible to be diagnosed with both. Itās possible, but they are usually diametric opposites. SSD involves internalization; ASD involves externalization. Absent-mindedness vs. absence of theory of mind (lack of reading people or reacting to people).
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The internal versus external analogy makes the differences make a lot more sense, actually. This just makes me more sure I am just SZA.
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I did it too, the online test.
It says that iām experience many typical signs of autism.
When iām looking back SZ ācuredā me from Autism.
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Iām both an autistic and schizoaffective/schizophrenic person. Itās my daughterās firm belief that the schizoaffective/schizophrenia is secondary to the ASD/Aspergerās . By that she means that the autism was always there and the sz/sz-a was as a result of the stresses caused by being an undiagnosed autistic child and teenager. NB severe verbal bullying . I have the usual spiky cognitive profile and adaptive functioning < IQ.
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I got āthere is a strong probability that you are autisticā on the online test @everhopeful posted.
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I always score inbetween neurotypical and autistic. I scored borderline here - 17.
Not sure what is nurture and what is nature. E.g. it is hard to learn social skills that your parents lack.
Thereās autism-like behaviour sprinkled throughout my family. But the DSM has personality disorders (e.g. schizoid) and delusional disorders and autism and social anxiety and giftedness and trauma. Never really know what is what. Donāt think psychiatrists know either. There is such overlap.
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E. Fuller Torreyās Surviving Schizophrenia claims that most autists end up getting simple schizophrenia.
My theory is that most paranoid schizophrenics are/were Borderlines.
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Really? Most? Thats a lot. Wow thanks.
I donāt think thereās any similarities. Some people have both, but they are separate.
I just want to warn people who lump the two together that it might upset some people, including autistics who arenāt schizophrenic and schizophrenics who arenāt autistic.
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Autism and schizoid/schizotypal have a lot in common. Being uninterested in people is common in autism and might get diagnosed as āavolitionā and, therefore, a ānegative symptomā.
If you are autistic and get really excited about something and donāt care about a lot of things, they can consider that to be bipolar mania and depression.
If you are in therapy long enough, I think you will eventually get diagnosed with pretty much everything if you see enough people.
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There are so many simularities that autism used to be called childhood schizophrenia