I see that your “Keplar Syndrome” and your “Renaissance” reference to the Trivium and Quadrivium schools of logic are inaccurate, but your ego and your vigor is running high. I consider all of these after this point, and I only assume you are trying to use logical fallacies to run down my image and change the subject on this thread.
I decline to comment with you any further. Please have a safe and fulfilling day. 
Everyone believes something that is not true whether they know it or not or even care. To say that there is a perfect human is not precise.
I forgot I coined that term… Kepler spent his whole life trying to tie the astronomical and the divine together using geometry. Only to give up in the end and come up with orbital theory.
I call it kepler syndrome when someone tries to prove delusion and wastes their whole life doing so… His genius recompensed for all it’s wasted time as soon as he got proper heading. Must have learned a heartbreaking lesson in human stubborness as well.
This is wholly wrong and you only stand by it because it’s simple and gives you hope that you can beat the illness. Again though this is wholly wrong.
Won’t question the spirit you’ve got behind your approach here… but schizophrenia is a complex and unfortunately there is no corresponding simplex to subdue it.
Please show me your evidence.
Well what am I arguing against… All the evidence in the world would indicate that the rare few who develop psychosis have a genetic predisposition to it.
What is your point beyond that? What are you trying to say about us as schizophrenics?
Are brains are just different? Faulty but only under this paradigm of culture?
What be it matey?
Honestly you can’t make reality such a flat slate like a computer program. Life isn’t thst simple. Even if you knew the answers to everything you wouldn’t be able to change the world into it’s "perfect " form. Humanity is too flawed.
For God’s sake we attack each other if the other is too peaceful. We attack each other over absolutely everything.
Peace is the last thing humans want. Because what does peace cause? Boredom, boredom causes conflict.
Anyways that’s all off topic. The simple truth is that what we experience can not be rationalized and explained by logic. Some of it can bit that does not comfort it. I’m studied myself like a lab rat and I know myself. I know my kinks and where I go hay wire bit that does not allow me to simply not react or experience things when my buttons are pushed.
Please show me your evidence.
I never suggested any of this. I simply suggested that we take a look at the processes of logic in mind and in nature, regather ourselves, and take another look at it from a new perspective Stoically and naturally.
This is commonly known around here. This comes from the site itself.
http://www.schizophrenia.com/research/hereditygen.htm
You have a bias sir… don’t close the doors on yourself.
Idk man… I wish it were that simple. If I go back to the start, it was something so simple that set me off. I mean, I might have well turned a booger on the wall into a horror film.
That’s not logic fallacy. That’s just faulty circuitry.
Though I think this sort of thing can help a person re-calibrate.
It’s flawed. There is nowhere that allows for the parents nor the twins to live separately. Because they have bonded with their “schizophrenic” family members, they have adopted the nature of it.
Please provide the statistics where the scz parents and scz twins have lived apart from the supposed “inheritors,” and I will show you that they do not “genetically inherit.” I’ve done research, and I’ve found that professional researchers in the field do not know of any cause with certainty.
I will not contend with you for any ego rights in our forum for therapy. I will simply suggest that language, logic, and nature is what an scz has inaccurately described, thus I will suggest a means of understanding these things from the root base which is a pursuit to understand a little Trivium and Quadrivium with a Stoic perspective. This is not a mystical or spiritual pursuit. It’s not suggesting anything supernatural, and I suggest that anyone not just an scz do this for themselves in a world so full of fallacies that it makes people sick, inept, and doing things that are destructive. In that case I am not simply suggesting so as a way to find a bit of peace of mind, but as a way to find a peaceful society.
So it was not Renaissance, and it was not Keplar Syndrome, and I think that ends our discussion, Azley. I hope so. You made your point, and your point was well taken and much appreciated. It was a little snappy though. Hehe
I see sz like this. You find your breaking point. After finding it it’s like it is held in front of your face and you’ll keep hitting it over and over and over and over without the knowledge of that’s what you’re doing. Once you realize this, this track is so ingrained and lined with lead that it will almost always be there no matter how far youbactually get.
I do believe that insanity can be bred through psychological means… but obviously there is some stronger susceptibility among us schizophrenics who share the same playground and life experience as 95% of all the others on the earth.
We all have our breaking point. Our minds are inclined to just break around the age where really have to start rationalizing adulthood.
Your going to find mixed results anywhere you look and you will find support to keep clinging to your belief.
However you are suggesting that schizophrenia is a psychological illness. Most anyone who understands where you’re coming from on this website would be deeply offended at the suggestion. You’re indicating we ourselves are doing something wrong inside. It’s an implication that the illness itself likes to keep us under and something the a lot of us try to sort out every day.
No indeed that’s where it wants us we are “god damned” few and it’s our fault… We can wrestle with it as we chose but the judgment is irrevocable and we will never find answers nor be presented with an oppurtunity to atone.
It’s genetic broheim… I’m gonna take easy route and just do this.
https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/schizophrenia
https://www.broadinstitute.org/news/7823
and a little deeper it seems
Synaptic pruning… scary ■■■■
there is practically endless amounts of scientific research that pinpoint schizophrenia being caused by genetics… if you can really wake up to that reality then you might have a sliding glimpse at the reality of what would otherwise be a cultural/spiritual crisis within those who have a the propensity to hallucinate and think delusionally from birth.
Yes, re-calibration for therapeutic purposes. That is the best thing anyone can do whether scz or not.
I tend to agree with this Tyngerra. The thing I know though is that I have suffered quite a bit for having used the “view of the faulty circuitry” as being “logical.” That to the outside perspective of my fellow community members is “logical fallacy,” and probably in circular reasoning. I will go with that then.
The one thing though that comes up a lot in my life is simply how to determine what is real and what is not.
For instance if I have an emotional reaction to something that is not real, and then I act on it, or I do not react to something that is real because I have perceived it with “faulty circuitry,” then what I have done is “poorly in life.” I have diminished the practical value of what would have been or could be, and that means I have put myself in less safety and less fulfillment as that is practical value.
Therefore it is absolutely imperative that I define myself, others, and nature, and then I use a standard for determining what is logical and what is not. I mean I don’t know about you, but we’re scz to the rest of the world, and that is the first thing that they all would tell us if they knew how to put it in words. Hehe
Yes, that’s a good description. Your descriptions of scz are always spot on in my opinion based on my empirical experiences. They tell me that you genuinely have scz, and you are not actor.
But what do we do now? What would we have done if we didn’t have this? What shall we do now that we do have this?
That’s what this thread is about. Defining what is what through the Trivium and Quadrivium, and then re-calibrating our perspective one what is real about us first of all, but what is real and unreal about everyone and everything else.
There’s no such thing as a camp for us. We still have to make it in this world. Since our impediments are in our “logical centers,” then it is imperative that we seek help and understanding in this area no matter what I or anyone else in this world says.
Once having gone that road, then see if it is not a righteous way of looking at ourselves, others, and the rest of nature or not. You can’t know until you study it though. Trivium and Quadrivium.
It’s better than being bored and hating your life. In fact it is the opposite.
I’m sure there is some good points in them.
Alot of the people on here including myself are like a boobie trapped house.
We go through our minds early on and continually placing traps and triggers for ourselves. Making weird connections in things.
Like right now where I haven’t slept my mind is trying to create a conflict and drag in an outsider to create chaos
No offense, Azley. Just going through the emotions with you.
CNN, NYT, and the New Yorker are provably fake news. This has been known for years. For more on the direct admission by their own staff take a look at the Veritas Project online. So besides Keplar and Renaissance this is very impactufl. As always thank you for your astuteness. Always points for trying harder than anyone else.
This is your quote, but I repeat the same to you. As always thank you, Broheim.
Charming buddy 
I wonder if sz can develop in animals?
Too early for this am lol