So I tried googling the difference of the two but I can’t seem to get any good answers. Do you guys know the difference between the two diagnosis? Cause both have paranoia, But one is from a traumatic event. What do you guys think??
I have both PTSD and sz. PTSD has hallucinations but they’re of things that were traumatic in that persons past. In PTSD, the paranoia is related to the trauma. In schizophrenia the paranoia can come from nothing at all, and the hallucinations and delusions can have nothing to do with a prior trauma in a person’s life.
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Good distinction. My so-called schizophrenia started with traumatic mind games at work. It was real. It wasn’t something I made up. I think it was more PTSD.
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Ptsd can actually cause psychosis, it’s called something like ptsd induced psychosis. Early on before a ptsd diagnosis existed it was often misdiagnosed as schizophrenia because professionals thought flashbacks were hallucinations and psychosis.
Generally yeah ptsd is totally based around a traumatic event or life, paranoia is more going to be focused on what the trauma was so for example paranoid of men because a man assaulted you or some soldiers even become paranoid around certain races because it reminds them of people they fought overseas.
Another thing is a flashback is not the same as hallucinating, you can see anything with hallucinations and psychosis whereas a flashback is literally the person’s memories replaying themself so vividly it’s like they’re living it again.
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PTSD is an anxiety disorder based on having been traumatized, while psychosis relates to difficulty recognizing consensual reality, for example in hallucinations or delusional beliefs.
Those with PTSD can have a variety of symptoms, e.g., flashbacks of the trauma, hyperalertness, or overreaction to casual statements that can look quite like psychosis. Usually, though these are transient and related directly to the trauma.
Both schizophrenia and PTSD are possible at the same time.
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This is really an interesting revelation. I frequently flashback to this situation that happened over thirty years ago. It was mostly psychological trauma, but there was even physical assault. My delusions all come from this time.
So There’s a fine line between SZ and ptsd which is one caused. Y nothing and another cussed by event and symptoms revolving around that event?
Schizophrenia has many unique symptoms: negative symptoms, thought disorder, delusions…
Remember…
…the brain makes a simulation of every event.
It also simulates your internal events.
Therefore everything is “mental” as in a “mental rendition of information” from the 5 senses, the memory banks, and the cross feeding of multiple mental faculties in one “brain’s rhetorical product.”
Therefore if you were part of a traumatic event where bad people or something like that actually got physically, that is a simulation of psychical events.
In other words the brain using information created a simulation that caused the event to be perceived as…traumatic.
There are only four parts to that:
Brain
Info
Simulation
Memory
You can create traumatic events with information that may be “irrational” as in is not real except in the mind. The brain can make “irrational mind states” out of illogical information, but the universe cannot.
While the univese did make an event with a person experiencing this information causing it to be remembered in a traumatic way…
…the scz did also experience a kind of universal event causing the experience of information that subsequently caused traumatic memory.
In other words the brain did cause its own traumatic evens without require them from the external world.
What is more is that what happens in the external world (outside of the mind) is can be perceived as so negatively impactful mentally crippling the person. This can all leave traumatic memory even thought traumatic memory could not be recorded in anyone else because they did not experience the events the same way.
This is also true for people side by side experiencing traumatic events where one person experiences the information from the event from a completely different angle, and the other person experiences it in a way that is not “traumafying.”
And the difference between events that take place external of the mind, and the events that take place such as those of the scz is that the event in the scz may last all life long where as the event in the external reality may be as brief as minutes.
Chronic PTSD or C-PTSD is the kind where the panic is constant rather than simply trigger now and again. Since the scz is a constant for several years, the C-PTSD is a more likely symptom than ordinary PTSD.
In my own experience I can say that before my scz was something like you would expect a kind of “hell dimension” to be even though it was only informational within the confines of my mind. One can point to where my mind resides, and so can I, but my mind is not something that I can see, hear, or touch. I cannot sense my mind, and whatever it is in regards to information and the logic that it uses I was in a traumatizing “place” or “shape” or “state of conditions” or “form” if you will for years.
The only difference being that others in the physical one get their information from physical causes where as mine were produced without the physical causes, but that is not to say that there were not “external stimuli” that influenced the “turbine of pain” in my brain.
No one can forget if they have been “to that form,” but why they don’t call the symptom PTSD is beyond me…so far.
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