My IQ is probably average, maybe even lower than average, but life goes on lol.
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I should stress that the 164 is if all those best scores occurred together. You can knock about 1SD off that for overall performance.
Re negatives: I donât see my negatives as being anywhere near as bad as those of @Aziz . Some of those ânegativesâ of mine could just as easily be ASD related.
Also âsignificantly lowerâ is not the same as an absence of negative symptoms.
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Thatâs a quite good point. For me itâs clinging to something,however small,thatâs an oasis in a vast desert of ineptitude.
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I think thatâs understandable, honestly. This illness takes so much from us that anything you can manage to keep is worth celebrating.
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Thatâs very true. I donât doubt there are some here who think Iâm boastful, but itâs actually like putting a loose dressing on a gaping wound. It works for a while , and then the âbloodâ oozes out(âMost people could do well on that testâ) .
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This IQ talk has been going ever since I came here.
I understand itâs frustrating for some people to not fulfil their potential, but itâs just a number guys, it doesnât define you. The same goes for a bad grade on college or school, thereâs so many things that can influentiate your scores. Bad teachers, anxiety, poor time management and the list just goes on.
I think I already said this, but to me itâs now how many lemons you have, itâs how you use them. In particular under stress and with short deadlines, although if someone is really good managing time, the short deadlines turn easily in average deadlines.
My point is, do the best you can despite your conditions and maybe, in the meanwhile and on doing that task, your skills will be upgraded. There were so many things I thought I couldnât do and once I completed the task I felt more capable and confident towards new challenges.
To me the adversity is always an opportunity to grow 
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@Aziz is very intelligent, I have learned enough about computers etc. just from talking daily and having my interest piqued to research even further that i went from a console gamer to someone who can build pcâs and upgrade any part, to the point that ive made sales on computers ive done stuff to
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One thing I can say for sure on the subject is that I know that I am not as intelligent as I used to be pre sz. I actually think I had a decline in intelligence even before I had psychosis in the prodromal phase of sz. I donât think my intelligence has declined much since I have been stable though thank God. And hopefully it wonât decline much more except what might be expected with normal aging. I donât worry about it too much though, with the possible exception of developing Alzheimers or dementia because of it.
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Same for me. 15
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That could be said about a 1000 and more online forums. Ditto the âWhat job did/do you do?â threads.
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I guess Alzheimers is itâs own separate disease though and probably would not be directly impacted by mental decline. Dementia would though.
What can I say, Iâm tired.
And no, @firemonkey , I doubt any of us have had that level of decline. Anyone that can use this forum effectively has not.
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Sz was called early dementia before.
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Dementia praecox (meaning a âpremature dementiaâ or âprecocious madnessâ) is a disused psychiatric diagnosis that originally designated a chronic, deteriorating psychotic disorder characterized by rapid cognitive disintegration, usually beginning in the late teens or early adulthood. Over the years, the term dementia praecox was gradually replaced by schizophrenia , which remains in current diagnostic use.
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I got the info from a current Twitter thread in which pdocs and psychologists are discussing recent research re sz people being more likely to develop dementia. Apparently it was the same pre antipsychotic medication.
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IQ is dumb! Do what you do with what you got!
What this article is basically saying is that if you had a high IQ pre sz, you are not sz but rather bipolar.
My pre sz IQ was âabove averageâ at 122 points. @Bowens @firemonkey @Aziz
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Yea I was above average
Everything at school came easy to me till I was 17
Post 17 everything was different
Cognitive difficulty has been quite bad since then
Dropped less than ten points even while in very early stages of recovery from psychosis
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@Bowens and @Aziz, Im 47yrs and noticed decline of intelligence past two years.
I was one of best mathematicians in school, primaryâŚ
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Iâm not a particular fan of this study. Many (20-30%) people do develop psychosis but rather not show any widespread cognitive decline. Although change of focus is generally good it will probably lead to new cognitive enhancing drugs
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