I’ve read somewhere that sz is a thought disorder. Now the problem is that I believe that I can “think” my way out of sz. …but to no avail
What I realize is that insight helps but I cannot do it without meds.
Its like a fine line between thinking I can think my way out of it vs the plot agaist me…like if the plot stop, I won’t have sz anymore.
Can anyone relate.
It’s a thought disorder that you can’t think your way out of.
You can use CBT to think about your positive symptoms in new ways so they are less distressing for you, but in my case I cannot do it without meds giving me a foundation to stand on while I’m working on the other aspects of the illness.
Imagine you have been in a serious accident and witnessed horrible things one should have not seen.
For which CBT works but for the injury one needs to take the meds.
IMO
We all have brains. If someone could think their way out of schizophrenia someone would have done it long ago and other people would have copied them and we would not have schizophrenia in the world. But you can’t think your way out of schizophrenia, I’ve tried and failed and probably so have many others.
delusions and all stuff in psychosis can alter thoughts but one can still heal one’s mind with help and meds
Schizophrenia sadly cannot be thought away with. It’s a misleading idea that strong minds or “intelligent” people can think their way out of it. Media is to blame imo - many struggle with this and don’t comply with meds because of it
My bad did not read through oops
No. “intelligence” does not make you think your way out of schizophrenia if that’s what you are asking? I wrote
It’s a misleading idea
cannabis made me daydream about ■■■■ ,cursed drug 4 me, never touched it in 20 years scum drug
I was able to change how I perceive positive symptoms and react to them by being aware of them and altering my response to them until it became a habit. And as my stress level drops the intensity of the positive symptoms drops. That much I can do. I can’t think them away entirely and I need the meds to maintain insight. So, yes, you can think your way into a better space somewhat, but not entirely.
That’s great but it’s still misleading to say one can think his way out of Psychosis the way people like John Nash did for example. He was wrong to have said that imho.
John Nash ! The man of the topic.
I doubt anyone ever can’t think their way out of sz. In fact that will probably make it worse. They can however “work” their way out of schzophrenia by taking part in health promoting activities. Noones just gonna have some magical awakening and wow I’m no longer sz. But if they make up their minds to do healthy things and do them then it can improve drastically
The reason you can’t think your way out of schizophrenia is because you are using the same mind to think that is diseased.
Yeah, but that requires specialist support. The practitioners around us have to be of the ability to wait and control the illness’s worst symptom (lack of insight). Sadly, most countries and society’s just don’t have the knowhow or the patience to sit it out and support us so tentatively
I can’t think my way OUT of psychosis. I can think myself into a better place when experiencing psychosis by altering how I react to it. Fkkkn aliens follow me around no matter what.
Thought disorder usually refers to incoherent thoughts and speech, the sentences can sound like word salad
I see schizophrenia/schizoaffective as primarily a cognitive disorder. That’s the most disabling part, for most of us with the diagnosis. That includes me. I struggle more than a little bit when it comes to organising and planning. Have great difficulty prioritising when it comes to multiple step tasks. That may be due(never been officially assessed) to having comorbid ADHD- inattentive type. ADHD also occurs frequently with those who are autistic.
Don’t put a lot of weight into the meaning of thought in thought disorder. Schizophrenia has a lot of components-strange thinking being one. I look at schizophrenia as a psychotic disorder with all that that entails.
John Nash didn’t cure his schizophrenia. He was sick his whole life. As he got older his symtoms weren’t as severe and he was able to blow them off or work around them seeing them as almost silly. It’s been believed that schizophrenics that don’t take medication have a greater chance of recovering in the long run. The downside is it doesn’t happen until old age.