Research...different Sz subtype

… I like doing research, finding out information and solving puzzles… When i got diagnosed my psychiatrist mentioned (and i agreed) my atypical presentation. I was functioning semi-well without antipsychotics. @Sezbot241 i think it was you that mentioned that you were surprised that i hadn’t been on antipsychotics due to how i communicate on this page.

So i did research and found this article, it checks off/explains all the things that have been identified as part of why i am a atypical schizophrenic. As a kid my IQ was tested as bein in the 140’s

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/25752725/

Anybody else ever hear about this phenomenon?

I realize it might be a personal question, but have any of you ever take an IQ test and how do you compare to this article’s claim

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I thought SZ affected ppl of all IQ equally

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That’s what I would have thought too, but apparently maybe not

Very interesting…I also have quite a high IQ and pretty much nonexistent negative symptoms. I come off as a totally normal person when you meet me.

This doesn’t mean that there aren’t different subsets of people with sz however. Like it may affect people of all IQs equally, but for some reason the people with higher IQs seem less impacted by negative symptoms. This would be interesting to study to find out why that may be.

My psychiatrist had suggested that my atypical presentation is due to me over-rationalizing everything

Yes it was me that was surprised by your coherent posts. But then not everyone with schizophrenia presents with exactly the same symptoms. Like any mental health issue, different people exhibit different symptoms.

@Phoenix90 What are your manic symptoms like?

From the link you posted.

Those with a minimal post-onset IQ decline also showed higher levels of manic symptoms (RRR=8.213; 95% CI=1.042, 64.750, P=0.046).

Also are you at all on the autistic spectrum?

Thus there will always be an element of over-rationalisation to his emotional interactions, since he/she will be acting on learnt cortical knowledge rather than feeling “heart” knowledge.

http://www.learningrecovery.co.uk/four-styles-of-help/

It feels odd to say from myself, but i tested in the gifted range as well. I didnt get an exact score, just that it was in the gifted range. (I didnt want to know the result because the test terrified me, i could notice all troughout the test the decline in cognitive skills from meds & psychosis, especially on things needing memory).

The doctors have been very confused whether i had sz or not, because my presentation was different from average. I have severe delusions, but also periods with minimal positive symptoms and i have little negative symptoms on lower doses of meds. I am not off meds, but i use the tiniest amounts. I present normal. I do have some negative symptoms, but i can compensate for them in my presentation to others.

This interests me. Reading this makes me wonder, perhaps i do have sz afterall, but just this variety.

Oh and i too do the overrationalization thing.

I don’t wanna brag but I tested as gifted as well as a child. I do suffer from negative symptoms like alogia, apathy, asociality, and avolition but not so much positive symptoms on a minimal dose of antipsychotic.

I used to be a really smart kid and was in all gifted classes, etc. Now I feel really stupid. I don’t know if it’s the schizophrenia itself, the medication, or something else entirely, but my memory, focus, and concentration are totally shot and my aptitude for learning new things is basically zero.

It would seem you would be classified as twice exceptional.

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I have a decent iq, în the 20-30 % of the world
And I don’t have negatives or high positives, I’m functioning normal and the meds work for me
But I don’t have sz, I have a psychotic disorder with sz symtoms.

As soon as I go off meds I don’t make it a week until I need to be hospitalized. They say after 3 psychotic breaks you need to take Meds for all your life

@Om_Sadasiva has a high iq and he’s tormented everyday by negatives and positives

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I don’t know about my iq but I am tormented by symptoms. That’s for sure

I remember you saying you have a high iq, that you were tested at the University :neutral_face:

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I have somewhere from 105 to 120 iq.

I mean I used to figure my sat score translates from (1870) to ~128 iq.

But I’m not sure if that’s totally reliable…well my mind has changed a lot since then. I believe in some ways I’m smarter than I was at 17 and some ways dumber. If you told me my IQ was 115 I’d definitely believe it. I’m not sure if I believed the psychologist who said I was 120.

Well there was one section of the test I think I got every question right…math section…so that may have boosted it a bit.

A year and a half previously I scored 105 but Idk I was really psychotic at the time and Idk.

I have paranoid thoughts about my iq tests due to varying results but I think id test no lower than 115 now…

Take a test and find out now when you’re better and stable

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@Jonnybegood https://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/GREIQ.aspx

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I took the sat the second year that the test expanded to /2400

I got 1240/1600

And

1870/2400

So it says that 1240 correlates to 130 iq. That seems kind of high

Because my graduating class of high school we had the highest sat scores of any school in our state. And I was probably around average. Or maybe even below average. We had at least 5 kids get perfect sat or act scores. My 2nd best friend got 2400/2400 on his first try. He’s a genius.

@anon92220549 I don’t wanna pay all that much for an iq test at this point in my life. Thanks though.

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Yes I was tested. That’s true. I don’t care for tests though. intelligence can’t be measured in my opinion

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