Bc I remember people asking about this in another thread and I said I’d share mine. For some reason the guy didn’t remember making an appointment with me o.O so he didn’t have my full report ready…but my IQ was high average, he said it would’ve been “superior” except my I think spatial processing skills were off? So I had trouble with the recreating block patterns, finishing patterns, etc. And that brought me down. He said that could be due to depression.
And then for the MMPI it basically said all stuff I already knew like I had 50 million problems. It was also cool bc it recognized that I didn’t have them at that time. Like I was fine/stable when I took the test and just reported basically anything I had ever experienced because I didn’t want to leave anything out, and that actually shows up on the test if you do that which is pretty neat.
One thing that was interesting was he said that it seemed I had a very aggressive side from the test and that it seemed highly likely I was prone to violence but I’m not like that at all. I have had anger issues in the past where I had a lot of rage but never lashed out at anyone. However it’s interesting bc in my dreams I am different and often extremely violent. Last night I dragged people up in the air and dropped them on their heads and then made items some kids were holding explode into flames giving them horrible burns. (I didn’t intend to burn them that badly but still, yikes) I often have episodes of extreme violence, usually worse than that, in my dreams. So it’s interesting it may have picked up on that.
Summary: Tests said I was smart & have/have had a lot of problems. Spent 70 bucks to find out what I already know…ah well Overall wouldn’t recommend spending money on it unless you have to.
Also he says he really doesn’t think I have schizophrenia because I don’t have any notable cognitive deficits. I was marked as having trouble with things requiring switching tasks but he said that was normal for people w depression. Very interesting!!
I dunno! I’ll definitely bring it up next time I see him though! He’ll probably want a copy of the full report too once it’s done.
The tester said I definitely had signs that I’d had psychosis but that it was unlikely to be sz. He thinks it was either my sleep disorder, bipolar, or even just creativity/imagination mixed with high anxiety levels.
Yeah I questioned that diagnosis when I got it because here was so many things w me that didn’t line up w sz, like how I can function pretty normally off antipsychotics (though I do commonly experience weird/scary/disturbing things off of them) and don’t really have the same severity of cognitive problems as others on here. My mood stuff was always way more debilitating to me. The psychosis has been terrifying at times but the mood stuff is what would end up killing me if I left it untreated. I wonder if my diagnosis will change back to major depression w psychotic features again. Or maybe not psychosis at all and it can be blamed on my sleep disorder…hmm!!
Ummm what was it Weschler IQ test? And then MMPI was personality (ie mental illness screening tool not really personality )? And there was some other minor screening stuff too but those were the main parts of it.
Again I generally wouldn’t recommend it, you probably already know everything it will tell you.
The general consensus I’ve seen in professionals seems to be if you don’t have significant cognitive problems then you don’t have sz. That’s not what the DSM criteria is (which is official diagnostic criteria) but I find the DSM to be very broad to where you could have a huge spectrum of people diagnosed as sz.
Cognitive problems shows up as low IQ. (That’s what he told me) Which I think is unfair because if your illness prevents you from performing well on a standardized test, that doesn’t really represent your true intelligence and to me doesn’t mean you’re dumb.
I had the Weschler test done 7 years ago and my I.Q was 69 which I have always thought was wrong but I think the psychologist looked at my school reports which tallied with the I.Q results maybe because I went to a special school. I had the test done before I was Dx’ed with SZA.
There were 3 major parts that were I think verbal processing, spatial processing and then processing speed. (Not 100% sure on that could have also been something like verbal/spatial “reasoning” idk) I scored “superior” in verbal, average in spatial and “high average” in processing speed. (I think my numbers were like 143, 93, 111) Then those parts have subparts but I don’t remember the subparts.
@bobbilly Yeah that’s what I think treebeard was saying that many people w sz actually are shown to have had low IQ before even developing the disorder. So are cognitive issues always present and then just the psychosis part develops later like positive and negative symptoms? I think I remember reading a study like that, that people w sz tended to have cognitive troubles from an early age. Very curious.
Well, I used to have a really high iq but I don’t think I’d score nearly as well now. But I also don’t think I’d score as having a low iq. I have had a big drop in functioning though. I wonder if that counts or if its specifically a low iq only.
If your spatial processing skills were really off ie suggesting a spiky profile that would render any overall score meaningless.
Sometimes the relative strengths and weaknesses on the sub tests are more relevant .
Not a fan of psychology. Recently served a 7 day ban from some over the top comments but seriously. I don’t worry about tests except for those I did for the Australian schizophrenic research bank. They were interesting but they don’t tell you the results…I think that is half the problem with psychologists.
A 50 point gap between verbal and spatial would be indicative of what, in the USA, you would call a learning disability. That is different than an intellectual disability.
How is it a disability though if my spatial is still in the average range?
I’ve always been like that, scoring off the charts in more reading verbal comprehension stuff and being pretty bum at math-related stuff. The only reason my verbal is so high is because I love to read and have been an avid reader since I was 3 and I am well educated. Anyone who reads often and is college educated would probably receive a similar score to mine. I mean the verbal part was literally just some vocab, how is this related to this and basic facts you learn in school.
Overall wouldn’t recommend spending money on it unless you have to.
)? And there was some other minor screening stuff too but those were the main parts of it.
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Glad to see it