Please always see a doctor guys

They are trying to help you. Hopefully everyone will start to share the truth with us.

Moved to Recovery.

Edit: I see this post was added to after I moved it to Recovery. Moving it again, this time to Unusual Beliefs.

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Please clarify. What do you mean by that?

Just that the voices in our heads are real people. It’s not cool that its being kept a secret we should all get together and go to the government about it.

If you are attempting to confer that it is the view of the medical professional world that the voices heard by Szs are real, then I think you may have inferred the opposite of the truth.

Nope. That’s backwards. The voices in my head are just a symptom of my imagination springing a leak.

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I think it is important to accept that we (humans) cannot confirm or deny the validity of one persons’ perception over another’s. HOWEVER, what we can do is rely on the merit pool of human subjectivity in order to identify measurable probability.

If all objective metrics suggest something is unlikely real and the pool of human subjective experiences serve to support the notion, then it will almost always be a more constructive approach to let it go as improbable and move on.

Defining reality is an exercise of futility; much like a dog chasing its own tail or Peter Pan chasing his shadow.

You could spend your entire life trying to prove the validity your own experience that defies the above criteria and get no where - and on the other hand, a medical professional could attempt to disprove a patient and get just as far.

That’s the paradox of reality.

From my perspective, the only real solution is to take a step back when a notion is at risk of taking one into one of these paradox loops and re-evaluate what one’s priorities would be if the notion were to be completely ignored.

I don’t know right now man just keep seeing your doctor i guess.

I hope a doctor hasn’t been feeding into your delusions just to make you more compliant.

I would do that in a vague, gentle way with elderly people with dementia when I was working as a caregiver, but it was because those people were at the end of their life with no hope for getting better, so it made more compassionate sense to never argue with them and just try to make them feel emotionally comfortable.

But for people with schizophrenia there is hope of regaining lucidity and living the rest of life in a more fulfilling way, so it’s worth fighting for that lucidity even if you sometimes have to pick and choose the battles. Encouraging delusions in a schizophrenia patient would be wrong IMO.

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I told the truth once it didnt work out so well…:unamused:

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Are you preaching to the converted? I’m still not even clear as to what the OP believes. Could just be my Autism :smiley:

Well their message seems to be to go to doctors for the truth, and then that the truth is that the voices are real people. So that makes me wonder/concerned if their doctor told them the voices are real people just to shut them up in an appointment or something. Some doctors are not the greatest.

If they were real the medicine would not help any of us.

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Wat if i wanna join the military should i lie or deni i have schizophrenia?

Even being the biggest cynic out, it still did not occur to me that a medical professional would ever encourage such thinking. That is blatant malpractice. And if your interpretation is correct, I think I might just get a bit angry.

No. You just said in another thread that you’re not taking meds, either. Do you really think it would be fair to comrades who are depending on you for survival and mission success, for you to be secretly psychotic the whole time?

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What if i told you i can handle it…

I wouldn’t believe you, because it makes no sense. Like for one, listening to voice commands in combat is extremely important, and you would have unreal voices in the mix possibly confusing things, like your orders or targets.

If you really care about others and want to serve your country, then it’s important to find a way to do it that won’t put others in harm’s way. People who join the military knowing they have mental health problems, do not really care about the lives of their comrades. They care more about their own pride.

I know it sucks, too. I gave up my revolver when I realized I experienced psychosis, and that gun was my precious and gave me a major sense of security. But I loved my family more than I loved my gun. Sometimes it has to be like that.

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If I could count the number of times I thought “If I had a gun right now!” in anger … I’m lucky I don’t live in the U.S.

Ur right :monkey:…but i strongly believe i can handle this …wat if its all i have to look forward to…