People who keep trying to off themselves are selfish

There’s a girl in my ward I used to live in a group home with, so I’ve known her for years. She has borderline as well as sz.
She keeps running off to try and kill herself. She says she can’t control it, but at the same time she steals knives hours before it happens, and she talks about how people who want to die should be allowed to.
It feels like she has some control, but denies responsibility.

I feel like she’s pissing on all the people who’ve fought for her to get better. I feel she’s doing it for selfish reasons instead of trying to get better.

I don’t care how people rationalize it, suicide is SELFISH.
It wreaks havoc for the people involved, the people who love and care for the person doing it. It leads deep-seated wounds that take years to heal.
Why would anyone want to do that to other people?
What makes a person not care like that?

“This is never getting better and I sure as heck won’t stick around to see if it does or do real work on my problems. I’mma take the easy way out” PISS OFF!

I’m so angry at her and at the people I’ve lost to suicide!

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This one girl I knew on Facebook keep posting posts on how she was going to kill herself. She did this a lot. Everyone thought she was doing it for attention.

I knew her personally and she would cut her wrists on a daily occasion. Her father was in prison most of her life and her mother died when she was young from an alcohol overdose.

She just needed friends and people to talk to, but no one took her seriously.

Suicide is a coward’s way out, I know, but suicidal people tend to think they have no one to turn to; even if they actually do.

Sorry,but this thread is offensive. Depression may not be as debilitating as schizophrenia but it’s still a serious problem. If we can not show compassion to people with depression then why the hell should anyone show compassion/empathy for the difficulties/problems we have?

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Many of us here have experienced depression,myself included especially when younger, some have made suicide attempts and some have not.

Instead of castigating people,be they young or old, for any suicide attempt far better to try and understand what drives some people to attempt/commit suicide while others don’t .

That’s one aspect of it. Another aspect is that some people are in such pain and feel so hopeless that they want to end the pain. They are not in their right mind when they make their last decision which is to kill themselves to end the pain. Also, some people who attempt suicide feel like a burden to their family maybe and are so unselfish that they think killing themselves would actually help their family so they won’t cause their family any more trouble. Of course, most of the time they are wrong.

https://johnpavlovitz.com/2017/07/21/please-stop-calling-suicide-selfish/

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Sometimes pain goes above bearing,

I also have schizoaffective disorder and borderline personality disorder. I also have numerous suicide attempts. When I’ve tried to kill myself I felt like I was a terrible burden to my family and that they’d be better off without me. Of course it wasn’t logical to think that but suicide isn’t typically considered a logical act even tho it may seem, at the time, like a logical solution to one’s pain. On that note, too, I think you need to educate yourself on BPD. Ten percent of people with BPD commit suicide, one of the highest rated, and the diagnosis is one of the most stigmatized one out there, even among mental health professionals. Perhaps if the lady in your ward had more people trying to understand her and support her instead of condemning her she might feel differently about feeling suicide is her only option.
Suicide can be a selfish act, sure, but generally the people who are trying have such pain that feels like it’ll never end. A lot of times they don’t realize that the feelings of depression will, at some point, diminish given time. I think you should consider being more empathetic and less judgmental. Maybe if that lady on your ward felt she could talk to you as a friend without being judged she might be less inclined to off herself.

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I don’t know who flagged this thread.I think it’s important subjects to explore.I had two suicides of people who I loved very much.It left bitter and a bit angry look on suicide.I don’t think those people were aware of pain they left to others to bare.
I don’t think my dear friend was aware that he’s been loved and well supported.He was my closest.I think often about him,and I could never understand why he did it.My grandfather’s suicide triggered my psychosis.

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It is important. Flagged or not we need to discuss and impress upon those that don’t understand, suicide is often based on lying thoughts. The impulse is so strong. It’s incredibly hard to fight against. Your thoughts are telling you that everyone is better off with out you. It is a type of psychosis. The brain isn’t right sp you can’t think straight.

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As someone who’s tried suicide multiple times I think it’s ■■■■■■ up to say it’s selfish.

Like is it the right answer? No. But I know when I was suicidal it was because I felt absolutely alone in the world. Everything hurt.

I felt my options were be in hell, and live with all this suffering, or die.

And the suffering wasnt all just cause I was refusing to get better. My situation was horrible and abusive. I was a child and I was scared and tired of it all.

When I became an adult these thoughts didnt just magically leave. I’d be lying if I said the thought never crosses my mind these days.

People that want to commit suicide hurt deeply. It’s not their fault. Calling them selfish lacks empathy and understanding.

So I’m sorry @Pikasaur I have to disagree with you

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