Pdoc appointment. Pls help me!?!?!?!?!?!

Soooo, I finally have time to prepare for my pdoc appointment. I have kept it as brief as possible, and it’s to one A4 page…

Do you think this will be achievable to cover in just 30mins? Or do I need to cut anything?

Help will be appreciated. I have not had a face to face appointment for over a year and I want it to be constructive

Letter:

Rules for Appointment (All parties)

    • No apologies for anything
    • No ■■■■■■■■

Current Medication:

    • 400mg Amisulpride BD
    • 150mg Pregabalin BD
    • 4mg Diazepam
    • 20mg Atrovastatin

DIY Med Plan:

    • Based on withdrawal severity, 1mg drop of Diazepam each week for three weeks, and two weeks on 1mg before stopping
    • Based on withdrawal severity, drop 75mg Pregabalin morning for 1 week, then 75mg drop evening for 1 week – then repeat until zero

After 9 weeks….

  • Based on withdrawal severity/symptoms returning… 100mg drop every 2 weeks of Amisulpride for target dose of 400mg per day

Points/Questions to raise during appointment:

  • Are there counter measures to combat withdrawal on the above? (EG: For Diazepam, found Travel Sickness and paracetamol meds useful in past)
    • Stated to GP in letter that I spoke to duty many times. Did they email each time to ask the above? This simple question I asked repeatedly to different people over 5 weeks and never heard back? Hence urgency and anger developing…
    • Is there anything else wrong with me that causes me to act badly when dealing with Mental Health services? With ref to the comment that I engage and disengage in hours or days?
    • Can the GP be spoken to about taking a more active role (Ideally led by me) in adjustments to medication (s)? If you don’t have resources, I need to have a way to get a ‘quick fix’ sometimes
    • Is therapy able to be reviewed again, as I think my mental state needs some work? Still a work in progress, and don’t believe that previous intervention was executed appropriately?
    • I am moving out of area in c3 months. Not prepared to start off with a fresh team. Will still be working in ATS catchment, can I keep everything the same as I am not moving far?
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Good luck in reducing your meds. I’ve given up on that. Each of my attempts ended in failure.

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That’s too big of a drop.
Coming off benzos takes months depending on how long you’ve been on them.

Ask your doctor how to properly come off Diazepam.

That sounds a bit ambitious for a benzo. Everyone is different but I would take it much slower.

Everything else sounds good.

I agree this might happen, but I must at least try and get rid of these sideline meds first before tackling the AP

At this time it’s not up for negotiation… Subject to withdrawal severity

Very ambitious, but I am going to try anyway

Thanks :slight_smile:

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I don’t want to offend you, but it sounds like you want to be the in charge expert. But you’re not a dr. Your pdoc and gp went to school for a very long time to become experts. You should have input, but not total control

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Not offended at all!

Just to make clear, this is not a bid for control or being the expert.

This is purely to guide the conversation in a way that’s useful to me, and addresses my concerns.

I have been unable to prepare for these appointments for over a year, as they have always been ad hoc appointments on the phone.

This is so that I do not end up completely not getting what I need from the 30 mins session

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you need to be blunt and quick as your not going to fit all that in 30 minutes.

I will probably give him it to read, that will take a few mins, then hopefully we can get to the point

Last time I gave him a densely written a4 paper and he spent the whole time trying to get through it and that appointment was an hour!

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Ok. Good luck! I hope you get the help you need :slight_smile:

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In my course of Public Health they were advocating ‘shared decision making’. This implies that the doc has to inform the patient of the various options and that the patient then decides which course of action they would prefer.

I have full control over my treatment whilst I am deemed to have insight

The day I take a step too far against advice then I will be in trouble, and I will have no choices left to make.

Sure I am pushing the boundaries, a fair amount, but I have to do this.

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Just to be clear your plan is to first come off the benzo and Pregabalin and then start lowering the Amisulpride dose right? It might be a good idea to leave some time in-between for your brain to adjust so lowering the Amisulpride is more likely to be successful. I’d wait at least a month after no benzo before considering changing the AP dose.

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Yep that’s the plan!

I will ask about this ‘withdrawal holiday’ period. Might make it more successful… Which is the whole point of this.

It will probably take longer than 9 weeks to drop the Pregabalin and Diazepam, but that’s what I am going with.

For the last 5 weeks I have been dropping close to not being able to tolerate, but just about making it!

Might be on probation at work, but it’s still going well despite this going on in the background

I work from home most days, so hide away a bit

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I do understand your desire to address these concerns, but i feel it will distract from your time. These have a high chance of turning into blame-based discussions, which will eat up your time and give you zero solutions. The first point is already restated in a more solution-oriented way with your question about your GP and the clinic’s lack of resources. The second question has already been answered by your autism diagnosis.

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As for the rest, I think it is well-formatted. I also think your withdrawal plan is a recipe for failure, and i hope that if your doctor proposes a slower alternative that still respects your goal of getting off the addictive meds, you can see it as a win and not an attempt to undermine you. But I think those are good things to talk about at your visit.

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That will not be constructive. My point was to show him that he’s not as accessible as he thinks he is… On reflection I agree and will remove.

I have been thinking I might have some sort of personality disorder. Do you think this acting out is because of ASD? This is not something I’d really thought about, but not sure?

I will take his advice. Wasn’t going to, but now I have slept on it, your comment is reasonable and makes sense.

Despite this, I will leave it in so he knows where my head is at. Might be best as if I try to explain all that it will take up time

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I showed my mother also, and she made me take out the 2 rules as she said it was rude

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One of the hallmarks of autism is rigid thinking. Meaning that you have a clear mental picture of how something should go, and get furiois when reality doesn’t line up. Another hallmark is a strong sense of justice and fairness, and a very low tolerance for things that are not fair and just.

As i am writing this, my autistic child is cleaning up the literal pile of broken glass in their room from their hour long meltdown this evening because i told them they couldnt have a second soda today.

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Ok that makes sense. What you just wrote feels like you have been inside my head when this happens. No one has told me that this is ASD behaviour before.

If it is ASD, then why don’t they mitigate? This is why I thought I might have a personality disorder, as they don’t seem to know how to deal with me.

You just succinctly summarised it however many thousands of miles away you are from me. Why do the people around me not understand?

That sucks about the glass. I used to trash things when I got upset. Kids need to have boundaries though, and I think the life lessons something small like that teaches will prepare for later life for sure