No truth is ever a lie

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discuss this further

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I don’t believe that no truth is ever a lie. Truths can be used to lie. An example is to take the statistics of two things to make a fake fact. There are more murders in the US during the summer. There is also a higher quantity of ice cream sold in the summer. Someone can craft a deceit that ice cream causes murders.

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If everything is true. Then there is no truth at all.

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And if there is no truth. How do I not know everything is a lie.

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someone knows the ‘‘full’’ truth…!!

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You should study philosophy, I am very bad at philosophy :joy:

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I think that whatever the truth is, it probably is a bit boring.

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does in certain areas of life, does the truth set u free?

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Confabulation.

A person who truly believes a lie, says it as truth.

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Oh, being married changes that.

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You can tell the truth and still lie by omission.

Picture this, you have a girlfriend. You go out to a bar, have some drinks, and bang a random woman.
When you come home, your girlfriend asks you where you went. you say “I went to a bar and had some drinks”.
You’re telling the truth, technically, but you’re also lying to her because that’s not all you did.

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I stumble and fall
But I give you it alll

Woman in love

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That’s why my ■■■■■■■■ alarm always goes off when someone begins a sentence “studies have shown”. Those studies are often very artificial, without a representative sample size, and made to support an agenda.

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I think you’ve had a profound revelation.

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Cheers! I can give you an example, *God may been using Head n Shoulders." :sweat_smile:

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Yes. Those are known as weasel words:

“Studies have shown”
“Nine out of ten doctors recommend”
“Most people agree that”

There’s also deniability to the intent of using those phrases.

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You can persecute the truth and make it a lie. But it is not. JC will set you free.

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Appeals to popularity aren’t logically convincing, because the truth isn’t a matter of popularity, unless you are talking about a literal consensus.

Studies that are properly cited really make a difference though. It’s like getting past rhetoric and getting to the raw scientific truth of the matter.

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