My last friend has fallen off

I only had one friend left besides my spouse. He has sz too and I haven’t seen him in over a year. He slowly started to let his delusions and drug use get the best of him and abandoned his family. I tried my best to help him in every way I could but he couldn’t understand that. He has been homeless now for over a year and rarely makes much sense when talking to him on the phone. It breaks my heart and terrifies me at the same time. I know exactly what he is going through and just wish there was more I could have done for him before he fell this deep into psychosis.

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Be there.

if not you, hopefully a shelter,
or The Salvation Army.

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I have tried to be. He has refused any sort of shelter, hospital, medication etc. I’ve brought him food, cigarettes, money, anything he asked for really and so has my spouse, but as soon as my spouse said he couldn’t do it one time he completely turned on us and said horrible things. I can’t give him any more than I already have, when he is refusing to help himself.

That’s good leverage.

You gotta figure out how to use those things to get what you want.

Which is getting him on meds/in treatment.

This is how I would handle the situation anyway. Provided you can afford the $ to supply his needs for a bit.

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This is what I pray doesn’t happen when people decide to quit medication.

I don’t know what medication is like for other people. In-patient care I was mind fogged but I thought that was due to the high doses.

If you have to live with a high dose because you didn’t get lucky responding to a lower dose I feel that this nightmare of an illness must be a pretty big amount of suffering.

I don’t know how to console anyone who has to look at either a life time of dulled thinking and confusion and feeling mentally trapped or someone who wants to feel free-er but is trapped up in these delusional long term states of unwellness.

I can only pray for either.

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have you seen The Soloist.

the sz. homeless guy was eventually put up into housing complex.

he refused meds too, but it was who he was.

and the guy was a genius at music.

these are needs, not wants, coping or surviving.

see Mazlow.

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I stopped doing that over a year ago, after he turned on his family and friends. I’m not his caretaker I have way to many health problems of my own to chase him around begging him to let me help him anymore. He has a job and lives in a hotel sometimes so he doesn’t need to beg me for items anymore. It is just sad the way he turned against the people who wanted to help him. I can’t force or trick him to get help I have already tried many many times.

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It is not only that he quit medication but he has turned to hard drugs also. it has changed his personality for the worst.

No I haven’t seen that. It is just a sad situation I think about sometimes. I’m unmedicated too so It isn’t really about that. Just about how much he changed so quickly. I have tried to get him into a permanent home but he wont accept because he doesn’t think it is real help.

Yeah. I know how that goes.

It wasn’t clear in your opener, but I thought I’d check and see if you had the resources.

It’s hard to help people who won’t help themselves. And we all know things are different for MI.

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Oh my bad, my wording might have been a little confusing. I wasn’t asking for advice on how to help him, just sort of venting. I’ve exhausted many different methods of trying to help, but nothing will work if he doesn’t want it. I know when to quit beating a dead horse. I can only hope he gets better and makes good decisions now.

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