Cover it up, but not to much.
Problem solved!
Balance.
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If men lust it is a personal problem, ie: the lust of the eyes and lust of the flesh.
When Europeans came over and saw Natives walking around almost naked, and even women without shirts in some of the hotter climates, they insisted they cover up as it was inappropriateâŚbut the Native elders told them it was the Europeans sin and not theirs that gave them an issue.
Problems arise when 2 different cultures meet. For some cultures the baring of a lot of skin does not provoke people to lust.
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Me thinks dem natives werenât as pure as you are making it sounds.
Of course they all werenât and arenât, but Iâve been to Sweat Lodges and other ceremonies where varying degrees of nakedness occur , lived among them and stayed with the more traditional ones. Most really do not have the severe lust problems of the EuropeansâŚor I should say they didnât Today many have gravitated down the spiral into the pit of western âmoralsâ which are pretty immoral, and the elders trying to keep the ancient ways struggle to keep their true culture.
I think they did have the lust problems and everyone always has throughout human history.
Hence the overpopulation in every single place and time.
âHey, there isnât enough food now! Should we stop having kids?â âNope, weâll just drive people out or kill them so we can continue âMaking loveâ.â
It was everyone the whole time, we all had our hands in this one im afraid, and itâs just repeating repeatedly.
Lust lust lust, the whole time coming from every side.
Because they are not following the true Islam. People must be very careful not to judge the culture to be the same as the religion. True Islam does not condone the oppression of women.
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Yeah, I agree. I should have put more thought into that comment. I donât mean to slam the religion. Every religion has those who claim to be devout yet act in opposition to its values.
Take care though, not to mistake Middle eastern culture for Islamic culture. The people in the Middle East donât always follow true Islam, but rather their own culture with a bit of the Western culture thrown in. If you want to learn about Islam, rather go onto reputable Islamic websites, like www.islamreligion.com to find out more. I believe a lot of the clashes and war in the Middle East is due to the people not following Islam properly (as well as being politically minded)
ah. So you are happy?
Yes, I am, I have peace. When I grew up I was a Pentecostal, then an Anglican, then a Catholic, and was always searching for the truth about God. I found it in Islam, I converted to Islam three years ago. Islam can be challenging to maintain every day (like prayer five times a day), but it gives me peace. Islam is not just for Arabs - most Muslims are not Arab or Middle Eastern. The biggest Muslim country is Indonesia. I am from Dutch descent and my husband is Indian. I do tolerate other religions. Iâm not a bigot 
Anyway, I think this thread about religion has carried on long enough. it doesnât seem to be relevant to this support group. If you want to know more you can send me a private message.
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alright!! 
I will take you up on that offer!
Great post @Hadeda I can see you have covered a very well portion of the positive side of Islamic women dress costume. I am from the middle east and to make you all aware I am very much against the cultural impose over religion at our countries. It is good to see that people here are having a dialogue about religion without labeling which is common against islam. I would say hijab is like the lollypop cover, you canât buy an uncovered one because you know it is exposed to contamination and may taste filthy, same thing in women it represents decency etiquette and class when it is properly worn. Many ladies even become more charming and seem more attractive to men in hijab-I speak for me self-. In the end, good post, and thanks to this very well informed educated and cultivated community I belong to. Greetings.
I kind of take offense at my daughter being called filthy because she doesnât adhere to shariah.
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I agree! I have only ever had sex with my husband. I never even did naughty things with exes! I have however, seen plenty of âhijab pornâ and have heard Islamic women talking about how another Islamic woman has sex with everyone! I donât believe for one second that there is less filth in that culture. People will be people. Some do bad things, others donât.
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There is debate about the interpretation of how to dress in the Quran. Itâs clear that people should be modest according to the Quran, for example a woman should cover her chest in public, but the specifics are not universally agreed upon. At the extreme end, i.e. the burqa, that is not in anyway a part of Islam itself, it is a part of certain cultures.
P.S The clothing a woman wears has no impact on her chance of being raped.
I would say hijab is like the lollypop cover, you canât buy an uncovered one because you know it is exposed to contamination and may taste filthy
What a disgusting attitude you have towards women to compare in that way to buying an object.
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Cool down guys I didnât mean to get offensive just wrote what Iâve been taught. I speak for myself and culture despite that I donât like it but I belong to it and belong here as well so no intention to make enemies. Ladies I apologise nothing intended. Hope this gets it clear. It was a rude metaphor but on good intentions. Good day all.
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And what does it matter if you did? Thatâs your business, not my business. The male penis is not some profoundly magical thing that is able to reduce the status and worth of women that it touches. Good Lord.
When I hear that men wonât be able to control themselves unless a woman is covered from head to toe in rags, my first thought is that thereâs a lot of animals that belong in a cage. Sorry, but women have the right to walk free and dressed as they will. Those who would physically attack them for it donât deserve freedom.
My 2 cents.
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Why are you so provoked? I think this topic has gone of subject and donât really think we should continue this. It is your opinion to dress what you want we are not asking you to do something against your will all is going on here is opinions of different people from different cultures and what works for you might or might not work for the others. It is pointless to continue this over here it doesnât help the community anymore. Again if you were moved by my words I owe you an apology but thatâs all. Cool down I donât even know if you are man or woman but I hope you can release your stress over aomething else. I hope someone with authority can close the thread. Have a good dayâŚ!!
I just wanted to say thank you for the insight.
I too find that my western culture up-brining has a hard time understanding this part of the culture where you liveâŚ
Here in my home town⌠itâs VERY feminine energy. There is a lot of our schooling and books support female empowerment and not having to adhere to any male ideals⌠I like that strength and I do consider myself very pro-feminist. (Strong mother figure who is a math teacher and an independent thinker)
So the hijab is a very hard thing for my mind to grasp. Thank you for explaining it more.