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… you can’t auto login as root or your system will implode within minutes.

Proud to announce that I got arch Linux up and running with cinnamon as my frontend. It’s my first foot steps into setting up an auto install process for customized rigs.

I do think I’ll be adding a user account for your usual security concerns… But I can automate that in a way most display managers don’t allow by bypassing them.

Damn tired right now… But my mission control is coming together.

I want to get a flashscreen going to cover up the boot jargon and I gotta select the software I want in my install script. Big fan of chrome… But they don’t have a Linux repository outside of chromium which Google’s web apps don’t even support.

Firefox just feels hell… Though the offshoot “ice weasel” is a funny spin on it. Perhaps some configuration can snap it back into more of a chrome like experience. It’s just noisy. And out of the box Yahoo support is so backwards… Man Yahoo is ad-ridden to no end…

Gotta get the network management software installed for the GUI… Cause the cli doesn’t work unless configured before launching the desktop… I’m on WiFi so it’s a pain.

Anyone a fan of arch Linux? I sold out to the challenge when I saw how much more up to date it’s repositories are in comparison to other Debian distros… It still lags a few months behind building from GitHub… But you’ll find that still tough as hell with version mismatch of Ubuntu and Linux mint regarding dependencies… Having something even slightly more up to date at least reduces the manual work of getting libraries in place. Everyone is switching to Qt from gtk… Gnome is morhping into a few things Linux mint and Ubuntu have there slants on it… With cinnamon being officially separated at this point.

All in all though Linux is getting a lot simpler… The modern Linux user is really demanding a lot more intuitive experience even with the cli… So some neat things are happening.

Building arch Linux systems is pretty sweet compared to my past experiences with Linux. You get a package manager out of the gate… With a huge amount of well maintained software and a ton of mirrors. It feels pretty resilient and is one of maybe 3 major ways to get Linux going without tremendous amounts of bloat.

I’ve heard about slackware… Which is even more manual as they don’t use a package manager… The old tar.gz style make before installing… Jesus though the Gentoo guys are the wizards of that.

I was really disappointed to find that the redundancies of the Linux file system are inescapable… There is such a strong pressure for OS guys to be mindful of multiuser environments… It’s like crap. If I had the skill I rewrite a distro to not have multiple copies of the same file structures all nested everywhere… I might just see how typical use populates those folders as a sole root user to see if some locations can just be deleted by auto script…

Obviously the issue is being hijacked via network and giving full access to he machine via linuxs predominate feature of a well defined root/system level user.

Alternative security would mean elminating telnet and ssh or any other vnc software… Anything that provides an externally dialable means of access… Then wrapping all of those things into a more virtualized instance that does feature a log in to utilize type set up. More or less what it already is lol… Except with that file system redundency removed because the security account isn’t a full blown user so it doesn’t need it’s doppleganger duplication of crap going on…

Or perhaps just restrict all inbound connections to have read only limitations with a more or less frozen system to deal with. Changes can only be made by physical access.

Man the wizards who really know their ■■■■ have been rigging up networks and using network access more predominantly than real in the flesh computing since the 80s and 90s… Even earlier if you had an association with a business or school.

I mean the stay at home guru types… Just insane the hardware they were using and all that.

They still leave me feeling jealous… That was even more homegrown with intensity type self learned crap to be proud of.

Blegh … I just hate seeing dicks on the internet who just tell people to not try things… They offer almost no constructive advice and just like leaving people feeling like they’re stupid… The dogmatic code of naysayers… I’ve come to know a few of them in real life as well.

Any case localarchbox is up and vrunning… Worthwhile endeavor to me. I think I can make a better retropie that runs on top of arch instead Debian Jessie… Pretty sure they have the full on raspbian desktop ready to look out from behind it at a whim… That said I just realized that there is no login in prompt on reteropie… But they really could use a splash screen if they are going for an arcade cabinet experience.

Linux is cool… But a whole lot of the cli read out crap… And the association Linux users get from maintain it’s presence in Linux applications like the raspberry pi isn’t something I really sit well with… Just feels borderline flaunty type showy and that’s not necessarily a good thing for computer gurus to cheaply proport… Cause it just maintains that sense of over-my-headiness in a large population that are indeed smarter than the computer… But the computer is just intimidatingly complex… When a lot of those complexities melt away when spelled out plainly… Which most computer guys like to avoid doing so they can keep their sliver of genius…

The only thing good for the world regarding the realm of information is transparency… It’s a sign of weakness to need to keep secrets.

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auto root sh script…
https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/programming-9/sh-script-to-auto-root-login-942085/

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I figured it out… modified and linked a getty script when tty1 is activated to -a root… then added the simple startx to my .bash_profile and added exec cinnamon-session .xinitrc.

There are a lot of ways it can be done… mine was a bandage bandage bandage approach… but I am learning.

It seems like within arch they are doing a lot to make configuration like that simpler. I’ve tried with other debians in the past but don’t remember any real success.

It is cool though to start seeing past the differences of the various flavors of linux… the blurred lines of what comes first and when too much software basically reaccumulates all of the various libraries from all the other desktop environments…

I forgot what the more frequently suggested method I was running into kept saying… but it had an if/than type condition with a bunch of parameters and was centered around user sessions built into “vt” instead of the more primary “tty” command line sessions. I didn’t want to go through the trouble of setting the parameters right to clear the check.

Apparently tty0 is something system reserved and even the initial login falls in at tty1…

I’m just spitting the noise out of my head… it helps to keep organized if I spell it out to myself.

I think I’m going to have to sign onto a GitHub project to get more experience with the guts of the stuff and working with others in a real time environment.

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// testvar.cpp
#include <var.h>
var sum(var x,var y) {
return x + y;
}
int main() {
var v = 23.3;
cout << sum(v,1.2) << endl;
v = “hello dolly”;
cout << sum(v," you’re so fine");
return 0;
}

all it based on old school C++ …

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Git hub excellent place, but if your looking for and easier flavor of Linux I would recommend OpenSuse / Ubuntu these two are a lot simpler, and have built in manuals to help with thing and have tons of thing I like Cinnamon, but it doesn’t have tons of information on things I would love to know and understand about it.

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I do however know how to pretty much get anything to run in WINE with WINETRICKS, but it does take a little bit of time and sometime research of how others have tried to do as such.

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llool

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hello dolly you’re so fine

Linux Mint is basically a glorified skin job oh Gnome3 and a few of it’s primary apps… It’s more or less an Ubuntu clone with a bit more polish and functionality to it’s desktop.

The linux mint forums are a pretty good place. I went with cinnamon because I like it’s functionality… ubuntu has a strong made for kids feel to it.

Then I switched to arch underneath it because they have a more close to source and up to date approach to things.

Like openMW is only 3.8 in ubuntu/mint… on arch it’s 4.1… 4.2 will probably hit arch before ubuntu and mint due to the Arch Linux User Repositories… which is maintained by the community and integrated into the distributions more officially supported repositories

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yeah wine is neat and has a lot more funtionality growing within it… windows has major leaps forward though with all the crap between .net and the dx10,11,12 iterations…

What I really see happening is some really great games becoming more inexpensive to translate over when multiplatform devlopers gain experience with Vulkan…

I am happy some of my child hood favorites are now open source and run natively in linux… Descent 1 and 2 and Seven Kingdoms… now morrowind… but that wasn’t really at the discretion of the developers… they totally cloned the whole engine! and then someone else got multiplayer working with it lol.

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I mean I do run windows… I’m not concerned with emulation or machine virtualization… I’m looking into freeware alternatives because within 10 years linux is going to have a whole lot more out of the box functionality and it won’t be such a clear choice that windows or mac are needed at all.

I’m not too familiar with you sweldon, but I’ve spouted on about wanting make games for a while on here. I’d like to think I’d have room for some of my products to have a “Free on Linux” variant to bolster the linux gaming community.

Linux really only needs a few free AAA titles with modern appeal to really garnish the player base that you find in other gaming communities.

Those games can be stream-lined slick and not lacking in any measure once the next hardware wave sets in and most graphics cards have support for the low level SDKs… Vulkan in this case.

Basically what I’m doing… just setting myself up to get working in vulcan… but I don’t want to trash my main computer again and again trying to get the linux environment right… this arch+cinnamon is an expiriment… and to be honest the stripped down cinnamon/nemo-fileroller combo delivers a very incomplete and ugly approximation of the main distributions luster.

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what do I need to start it ?

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Are you asking about Vulkan?

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yes Vulcan / possibly to being taking steps in order to program anything in Linux period. I understand Borland Turbo C++ 4.0 but for some reason things I’ve know are antiquated and seem not to do what they should any more and everything is like greek.

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Maybe I just being delusional. Maybe my time for understanding code and computers is almost come to pass, but when did ::

Include <conio.h>
Include <studio.h>
Include<math.h>
Include <complex.h>

Int Main (void)
{
float a,b,c,d;
///ectra…
when did most of this all change?

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oh c++ is great dude… You got microsoft with it’s spin off C# and then apple with Objective-C but those are just degenerates of C++

Vulkan is a native c++ library… I mean everything just orients around c and then you have the included libraries… linguistically they are all descendents of c and c++…

you got valueable understanding… even though every library has it’s challenge…

You got me more interested in looking into the kinds of GPUs that are compatible with vulkan and it seems like a great many more than I thought… but I haven’t found a consolidated source of reliable information.

I was assuming the hardware requirements would be similar to Directx12… which is pretty strict and requires a machin eto be running windows 10 anyway.

What kind of software are oyu wanting to create?

SDL2 seems to be a good SDK and plays along nicely with other more Graphic only libraries (liek vulkan)… but there are others cropping up these days that are more for just user interface elements… Classically like GTK but the most attention right now is going to Qt…

Contrary to that there is the middleware dependent crowd… all Java underneath… mobile apps and web development… has a lot of merit… but damns that’s layers upon layers of libraries and pretty absurd amount of distance for advanced real time operation.

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#include iostream>
#include string
using namespace std;

int main(){
string response;
cout << “Hello user! /n Please enter your name:”;
cin >> string;
cout << endl << "Thank you " << response << “! What can I do for you today?” << endl;
cout << “… exception thrown. Terminating user.”;
return 0;}

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I would like to do SDL2 ,but it seems very complicated. The software I wish to create is a truly virtual teaching room.
In other words a 3-d classroom for little kids and goof off within for a little bit of time but then get to learning things with a companion AI . like a talking puppy, bird, fish, flower. also with the ability to have time limits so the little ones don’t over do themselves. I also wish to make a mmorpg but a truly sane one that would be people not hacker friendly.

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I once wrote a whole thing for trig and inverse of trig, but I was only one whom use it .

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that looks so familiar, and warming to my tiny heart. :slight_smile:

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Lol that’s how that goes…

SDL is more just a windower and frontend… but it does well to incorporate most other human interface devices… that’s it’s major advantage… it really is a sound choice and one worth getting to know… IT’s library will compile to most all devices… it also supports X_Input controllers like the xbox 360

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you have me hooked where do I sign up to begin ?

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