I will try to participate in a clinical trial

I contacted the Boehringer laboratory and they emailed me some contacts from recruitment centers for people to participate in clinical trials. I will wait until Monday to contact one of the 4 doctors. If I’m lucky I’ll tell you about the experience.

By the way, did any of you ever have it in mind to search Google for centers to participate in clinical studies?
We should put more testimonials of new drugs.

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I’m not brave enough to try experimental drugs.

Plus I have other conditions that may exclude me from participating

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Be careful though, if you feel the drugs are affecting you negatively just stop and drop out the trial.

Do they pay you for participating in trials?

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you often have to sign an NDA (non disclosure agreement) so can’t discuss the drugs you are on legally without repercussions.

Clinical trials can be pretty dangerous, but wel paid for that reason.

Good luck!

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Never go into a phase 1 trial. Leave that to the people who don’t care about their safety.

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I think that once you sign the contract you can’t go back. And I think that in some specific cases they pay you. I have to confirm that.

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If I understand you. The thing is that current antipsychotics are very intolerable to me. I see it as positive to make an attempt and try something different.

@Nirvana

Oh. I’d be too scared of that. I’d be scared of brain damage etc

Best of luck. It’s people like you that help us all in the end

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What you say makes sense. What happens is that I am so desperate from suicidal thoughts and sedation that I want to look for something temporary that is different.

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@Nirvana

Ask the doctor for citalipram, it’s an antidepressant that’s works wonders for me. It works differently to other antidepressants I’ve been on. It’s an ssri but I find it’s the only one that helped me.

I hope your depression goes away

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They are effing miserable as sin.

They are actual poisons to the body.

To think that they all don’t come with terrible side effects would be delusional.

You just get to a stage after a long time of suffering that you learn to live with the ‘intolerable’ side effects.

It is as though you get accustomed to feeling bad, and accept that and sort of forget about it.

I am hoping karxt will be more tolerable, but my hope is low.

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Thank you. I have already tried many antidepressants and none of them helped me counteract what the antipsychotic causes in me. That’s why I don’t see any other alternative. I asked my psychiatrist about Modafinil and he told me that it is contraindicated in schizophrenics because it is a dopamine agonist.

That is to say that everything that gives energy is contraindicated and what I have to take takes away that energy, I can’t live like this.

But do you also have suicidal thoughts every day? I could never stay more than 4 months at a time on an antipsychotic, so imagine how intolerable they are for me. I am also aware that this does not happen in all cases.

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@Nirvana

Do you mind me asking what meds you take?

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I often have passive suicidal ideation where it doesn’t matter to me that I don’t wake up, but not active sucidal ideation.

This coincides with the jab of AP, so I sort of know what you mean.

I have been solidly medicated for 21 years.

I know what I am talking about.

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I am taking vraylar 3 mg. Same effects as with Abilify, Haldol, Zyprexa, Risperidone.

@Nirvana

No I didnt have suicidal thoughts. But citalipram chills me out and calms me down. It stopped stress. Well I had slight suicidal thoughts but I quit down on caffeine, like 1 coffee or 2 in the morning. Instant black coffee not strong brew coffee, that helped too.

Have you tried citalipram?

You said you tried many antidepressants, but what about citalipram? It will also help you sleep if your having trouble sleeping.

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I have them all the time, besides feeling stupid and cold with feelings. The weight gain is indefinite and Saxenda did not work to prevent it. I don’t know how to describe it to you, in my case I have suicidal thoughts at all times of the day.

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@Nirvana

Your serotonin is too low. Do you drink any caffeine beverages?

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Take antidepressants with similar mechanisms of action to Citalopram. Like Paroxetine and Sertraline. They didn’t help me at all either.

That may be a reason for my strong depression. Antipsychotics act on serotonin as well. Maybe my natural serotonin is lower.

I do take caffeine and taurine and tyrosine supplements. But the effect is short-lived and they are not enough.