The majority of parents even though they’re not perfect care for their kids for 18 years. They could abandon them especially if they were an evil creation. Some parents do abandon their parental duties, but the fact is most parents go without for their kids and sacrifice a lot for their kids well being. Why would the devil create them to do good at their own expense?
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The world wasn’t created by the devil. Or a God. What’s more likely is that one or more consciousnesses existed before time and space did. I believe I am from a God consciousness and will return there upon death. Perhaps all sentient life is also from the same consciousness, but I doubt that now as I believe in reptilians.
Even if you are in receipt of good parenting life on the whole is still unsatisfying. I mean that even if momentarily satisfied it doesn’t last that long.
Even if you are wealthy satisfaction is rarely achieved.
We are all in our personal hells; each distinct and personal to us. That is why the search for liberation of earthly desires is an ideal sought by many as if to free ourselves from craving, desire and earthly pleasures which often are brief and addictive.
How bad our ‘hell’ is could be contingent on a spiritual practice, and how well you handle it is key, but this constant search for happiness in a universe hell bent on destroying us is hell epitomised.
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How do explain people who volunteer at soup kitchens for free for 70 years serving their fellow man out of love. How do you explain people who tithe at church for their money to feed and house the hungry and help the disfortunate. How do you explain institutions that give people positive coping skills to get more out of their life? Products of the devil.
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That’s exactly what I’m saying parents go through hell for their kids. Why would the devil create them to be so sacrificial?
They are constantly in search of happiness and find that it makes them happy to help. Compassion has its reward.
It doesn’t change the fact that the constant desire and need to be happy as a condition isn’t hell.
I like this stuff.
Having a pet and spoiling it with walks I mean a lot of walks, was more than a temporary salve for my woundedness… I saw it all through bc my sis needed me.
I feel like Coco (the dogs name) is in heaven and is smiling down.
But I’m learning here that deep down I must have a tremendous fear of mortality which is why everything is so existential from me.
But I do like this discussion.
This is my take on your belief. You feel life is evil because you’re under a high amount of chronic brain inflammation. It’s not painful because the brain is innervate, but it is stressful. You’re looking at the world through a very negative lens due to that.
If that wasn’t a factor and your mood were normalized, you would be a lot happier about things.
Most gnostics agree that the universe was created by an evil demiurge.
I’m a gnostic technically (Sikh), and it’s not dogma that the universe was created by evil. But it does state that earth is in the “Kaljug” time period (demonic times.)
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Do you think (believe) that with science we will find (G)god? It was Einstein I think who said he wants to know Gods thoughts.
We’ve unlocked so many things that it feels like magic if you take a second and look back.
TW…
Maybe ‘the lord’ is like a bad criminal who wants to be caught?? (Haha).
So you believe in the God/demiurge distinction and the things that made gnostics think that the creation is evil?
I agree, especially seeing that my insight actually decreased over the years as my OCD became more purely obsessional -perhaps my prodomol stage?
That’s what I feared, I don’t believe in anything obviously psychotic . and that intensity you refer to is also typical of other conditions such as existential OCD, so the issue of diagnosis remains open, which for me is a matter of great anxiety. Fearing you might have been misdiagnosed with a psychotic disorder is not a small thing. Do you think all the symptoms I’ve expressed on this forum could be explained away by an OCD and DP disorder diagnosis? I’m not just aggravated by doubt but also deeply ambivalent about everything. I still remember when I was defending that I co-created the universe -I even gave a precise date of when the creation took place- and that I’m the only person around. These beliefs are still at the back of my mind. Also, for months I entertained the same ideas but I wasn’t obsessed by them, so I seem to have entered a new stage of my disease. Still, for someone not taking APs I’m not really that psychotic if at all.
If we were to accept the premise of the universe having been created by a morally invested deity, we’ll struggle to show that a universe with some evil in it created by a benevolent god is more plausible than an universe with some good in it created by a malevolent god.
Honestly, I have no clue. It seems possible, but I don’t know that it matters what I think. It matters what your doctor thinks. If you don’t like what your current doctor thinks, go to a new one. It doesn’t hurt to get a second opinion from a fresh pair of eyes.
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I’m not qualified to assess the brain inflammation theory, but I know you set great store by it.
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part of me does.
I’m glad the devil let’s us have a little good. So he’s a little good. That’s nice to know. Maybe he’ll grant me grace.
The devil invented good and evil, the true god is above such things.
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