So, I find myself angry and resentful about people using this hallucinogen and saying it’s a spiritual experience.
My mind naturally hallucinates, almost always on a spiritual theme. These people take something that creates illusions and act like their experience is spiritual, but it’s drug induced.
They’re playing with fire, and there’s so much support for it. But I’m just “mentally ill”. I resent that.
What do you all think/feel about people making themselves hallucinate?
Well ayahuasca has been used religiously by shamans and indigenous tribes for 10s of thousands of years. Dmt is a pretty miraculous substance. Wouldn’t exactly compare real life encounters with aliens and other dimensions to a disorganized schizophrenic hallucination experience. But Ayahuasca is probably older than schizophrenia. I respect indigenous people so gotta be cool with ayahuasca. Never heard anything bad about it either, except when combined with meds or an unhealthy mind.
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I appreciate your perspective, @Jonnybegood. I respect indigenous cultures as well. And I believe in individuals who are shamans by nature.
I think my problem is with the new popularity amongst westerners. People with no previous spiritual experience or deep cultural basis are diving into the deep end of the pool so to speak.
I guess I see my experiences with hallucinations/spiritual experiences as profound in many ways. I’ve been this person, in this “reality”/spiritual realm my whole life. These people come and throw themselves into a state of mind that maybe they’re not ready for.
And what part of their experience is real and what can they really rely on and take away from it, as opposed to just unleashing chaos in their minds?
that stuff scares me to death. i would never touch it. seen a couple documentaries on it as well. i know i would have a bad trip if i tried it.
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I wouldn’t do it either, @Lifer. I won’t do anything that takes control of my mind and maybe won’t give it back.
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Mushrooms are similar I hear. But I think the difference between psychosis and the hallucinogens is that you generally still have insight with the hallucinogens. ie. That tree is waving at you, but you know this is not normal reality.
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