How do I know what's real?

I have a problem.
I have, in the past, hallucinated conversations and interactions.
I have a vague memore of something happening yesterday that I would rather not have happened, but I’m having major doubts about whether it was real or not. As in, I honestly don’t know.

If I can’t trust my senses, what can I trust?
How do I know what happened was real or not?

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it could be delusion…do you think you’re stable?

You probably know to a certain degree what is real or not. You can probably forget it…or give it some thinking time to get better at knowing what is real or not… it would be problemaric if evertyhing started seeming unreal…more and more unreal

I’m somewhat stable, I think. I’ve had some minor tactile hallucinations but that’s about it

Okay, I’ve always had this question about schizophrenia (probably why I ended up getting it, karma and all)… you actually see things that are indistinguishable from real people/objects? Like they’re not see-through or thought-images like when you think of a picture in your head… they show up as real people? What if you walk up to them and try to push them… would your hand just go right through?

Sorry, not trying to demean anybody who hallucinates, just very curious. Hopefully it’s not offensive. That would be very confusing to me. I always figured it’s a combination of hallucinating see through images or thought images combined with a delusion that causes one to believe those see through images count as real people.

Now when I was drifting into and out of sleep I could half-see some see through people, but it was obvious to me that they were in my head and not in reality.

Do you think you’re suffering depersonalization? That’s my biggest achilles heel, and it’s the first thing to crop up if I miss my Zyprexa. It’s a general nagging feeling of disconnectedness from the world that makes you question everything on an existential level. Maybe if it’s that you might need a med adjustment, but make sure you mention it to a pdoc! Did you ever find reliable psychiatric care after your move? I hope things go better for you soon!

One way is to wear a hidden body camera recording 24/7. If you see it from the playback, you can be fairly sure it’s not a hallucination.

The thing, at least with my delusions, is that they seem so real it’s impossible to tell the difference.
Like the conversations I’ve hallucinated in the past, I really remember them happening and I’m sure the person said what I think they did, but they are adamant they didn’t and can tell me the last sentence they spoke.
It’s happened too many times to “just” be gaslighting. And with different people.

Even when I had the “my arm is not mine” delusion, it felt so logical and real I couldn’t tell the difference from reality.

I do have some psych care here, but my psych is threatening to take me off her sevice because I can’t afford an appointment until january

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I’ve had conversations with my voices. I still do, sometimes, late at night when I can’t sleep. I’m 100% non delusional though and have been for quite some time, so it feels safe to shoot the breeze with them as if I’m talking to someone in a lucid dream. I never mix these up with real life conversations though. The voices don’t just come out in my head… my lips also move to form the words being spoken to me. It’s weird, and it doesn’t happen unless I’m actively engaging them in conversation. I don’t mention it here much because I don’t want to encourage people to talk to their voices, because if they are delusional this could result in some terrible poor judgment and bad actions… like following commands or being convinced of something false.

So when you are hallucinating a conversation, you mean you are hallucinating a conversation with a real person like a friend or a family member? My conversations are always with an anonymous voice in my head.

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Yeah, like, I’ll talk to someone and in real life they’ll end the conversation, but in my mind it keeps going and the next day I remember things like them revealing secrets or admitting to things.

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Oh that’s confusing! You seem very grounded in reality to me, over the time I’ve known you on the forum… so I know you generally know what’s what. I guess if you were generally forgetful you could mix up facts between the real conversation and the part that was in your head. I’ve never had the strongest memory personally. Heck, I’ve had dreams where family members tell me something, then when we’re awake I’ll mention it and they’ll have no idea what I’m talking about. And that was well before I had schizoaffective disorder.

You could always try to pay close attention when you’re talking with real people to note when they stop talking and write it down or something… but depending on how much of your day you spend talking to them, might not work. In any event I hope things go well for you.

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keep a diary :slight_smile:

I had this problem recently, @Pikasaur. If I think something is amiss, I generally ask someone I was with.

I asked a friend to do that, and he blew me off. I hope you have better luck.

I have a whole construct in my head that is based on several great improbabilities, if not outright delusions.

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You ask people. Did it happened. You can film it or record it and see later if it happened

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