Hikikomori: Why S Korea is paying young recluses to leave home

@whirling-leaves might be interested in this.


They’re working on helping young people to leave their homes because most of them are depressed due to lack of resources that help them to function in society. The society is running on strict neurotypical standards, with lots of people burnt out due to high demand.


South Korea sounds like a really difficult country to live in with mental illness.

I hope things improve over time.


Not just Korea, but other Asian countries too. Many of them have competitive societies which lead lots of people (without mental illness too) burnt out. Problem is, instead of fixing societal problems, the government is using money to get people out of their homes. The Korean society is running on extreme competitiveness which is leading lots of people to give up their dreams.


I lived 1 year in Singapore and I know there were a lot of privileges with having a good payed job and that it was really difficult if you were on the other side of the isle.

I understand mostly.


I have a friend from Singapore as well. Instead of preventing people from dying by suicide or becoming a recluse, the government should focus on fixing the society’s problems first or give people with mental illness some resources. They wonder so much why mentally ill people committing crimes, and they don’t give out any preventive measures or resources for people with severe mental illness. It’s like pretending that this problem doesn’t exist.


Do you guys have mental health advocacy organizations? Here it’s an important part of the puzzle.


There are, but I haven’t heard about them very much. They are mostly grassroots organizations.

So far I receive no help from mental health organizations. You have to be “severely mentally ill” to get help. Apparently I’m too high functioning since I go to school and manage work well. But inside I’m suffering and I feel like I’m dying every day. I’ve told my doctor about my struggles and asked if there are any programs I could attend, but nope. Nothing.


That’s hard. I’m sorry you can’t get more support.

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I am sort of flabbergasted by the extent to which you suffer alone it’s as if no one is aware of your suffering in a realistic sense other than yourself and that’s unfair. People with mi require support.

No one knows I’m suffering unless I tell them that I am suffering. Until then no one knows. One time I tried to tell my doctor how severe my ocd is getting, and the first thing I was asked is how I could manage it on my own. Then I realized how little of support I was getting. I’m just like, do I risk stigma and unemployment and register myself as mentally disabled? Or do I just suffer alone and just deal with everything on my own?

I don’t even know anymore. I’m tired. And I don’t even qualify for clubhouse and my parents would be horrified if I were to access that.

That’s tough. So they would rather you not opt for help and suffer in silence than get help and improve?

In the Clubhouse I went to, a diagnosis of sz or sza or bipolar with psychosis was enough to attend, even if at that time you were functioning well enough to go to school or work. If you want to go, try calling them and telling them how much you’re struggling mentally and see what they say.

In re: your family - If the Clubhouse says you can attend, can you have a heart to heart with your parents about how you need the services right now. Do they listen to you at all?