There’s more than these two pages. In fact I think this book touched on the majority of subjects that are bothering me spiritually
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Looks like the word " lazy" is used a lot in those first two pages. 
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I like how they use that word Ego like its something bad. What is doing anything ‘good’ mean except looking out for Self?
And what of passages which clearly express “ego”?
"Before Abraham was “I am”. - Jesus of Nazareth
“I am the light over all and to me all is attained.” - Gospel of Thomas
“Genius is the one whose ego has attained consciousness.” - Otto Weininger
“Here I am!” - Betty White, Across the Unknown
Now, I don’t disagree with parts here and there. However, if they know better than they would know how words are more confusing to most people. Most people read and have no comprehension to the actuality of their meanings. That’s the problem I have with all books on “wisdom” or whatever you wanna call it.
It should conform to our time and it should work with it. Most of this is just going to sound boring and too confusing. People should (and it really is the only way the brain makes connections anyway) learn through dialect and experience. People “following” books and the like doesn’t really illuminate as much as it can give an appearance of it by “copying” what you hear. That’s always going to be a problem.
“Truth no matter how objectionable it may be is only true for that person.” And that is because everyone’s brains work differently.
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Don’t tell @flameoftherhine this
This book has brought me lots of peace and happiness. I don’t think it’s meant to be taken 100% literally but more metaphorically. My life has improved vastly since reading it. But I suppose it’s not for everyone… I consider it a self help book. And a spiritual book. Not a wisdom book.
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Ego is a complicated word. Taoism is a simple philosophy though. So simple the average human mind can’t comprehend it. The way osho writes it though he makes it easier to understand than most writers.
Yeah Ego is definitely a fluffy word. My only conception is the first meaning but there are lots more.
dictionary:
- the “I” or self of any person; a person as thinking, feeling, and willing, and distinguishing itself from the selves of others and from objects of its thought.
“The question is whether you can make words mean so many things.”
“The question is, which is to be master – that’s all.”
The paradox of all words is that they’re all equally false! True only so far as the person makes them through their understanding?
Was it you who commented about the positives of psychedelics the other day?? I wrestled with the definition of ego for yearssss as a result of doing psychedelics. It is commonly thought all psychedelics can soften your ego, kill your ego, diminish it, etc… whether temporary or permanent, it’s considered a positive thing in the world of psychedelics because you lose your ego…then it comes back and you have an altered more rational perspective. Same goes for meditation and breathing excercises. Like I said it’s complicated though…like that one girlfriend. I try not to think about it anymore and I’m pretty successful but I think I know what eastern authors mean by it. All I know is you can’t survive without an ego, in fact you’d be dead without an ego. I can go on…
But really, do you guys believe in Jesus? On a serious note#
Funny you should say that about surviving without an ego.
My brother said that same thing to me.
If I had the mind to respond to him then, I would’ve just [breathes in air] and responded, you sure about that?
As for psychoactive substances, yeah I commented positively about them. In those experiences though that lead to a lasting peace I don’t think they feel they lose their ego.
As it’s been said to me, “Righteousness is also ego.”.
So I will go around say “I am” as proudly as I want.
As for a “messiah” delusion, I think it is a bit bold (and egotistical/authoritative) to assume that there aren’t perhaps messiahs at all…
“Who are you to say these things to us?”
“And you?”
The saddest thing about that… If it wasn’the for the word ‘Schizophrenia’ I’d probably be the most religious man abiding by all the laws… but because of schizophrenia, what most would consider miracles/spirituality are just specs of madness to me… hell… Once woke up to the devil laughing - paralysed my body and shook my head… a normal person would probably run crying to church… me, ‘schizophrenia’ , didn’t even bother me, I just went back to sleep… But I reckon if I wasn’the use to the regular schizo psycho stuff, that would have been a very big deal - spiritually anyways
Maybe we’re just not fighting back… We rather watch it all happen then just brush it off and eat dinner before going to sleep. Hm, maybe it’s just me, but most of this schizo delusions are bullsh1t to me - waste of time - if I had any decisions on it anyways.
I used to think it was cool to get blasted out of my brain on psychedelics and weed and wander around town from house party to house party imagining that I was this spiritual guru. And then one day I lost my mind and I realized that sometimes you just don’t come back. Now I have to live with the reality that I’m not completely sane on a daily basis in a world that puts so much value on logic and reason.
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Ever see the ego driven get together?
Pure madness, it’s like they just start stroking eachother telling eachother how badass they are.
They link up like machines and ooze all over themselves about themselves.
Ego rules earth right now, that’s how ■■■■■■ up it really is.
I don’t like the opposite more
How long till this thread is shut down?