There has been a few times where I recieved forced treatment. All times I was behaving a little strange didnt really do anything wrong but the police brought me to the hospital. When the police bring me to the hospital it seems the staff lose all humanity and compassion, the exact details dont matter I was just brought in by the police thats it. The treatment is less than humane and austere not given legal support or any information about my condition or treatment. Then the staff comes in with gaurds and forces the treatment. Then released from the hospital without follow up. One time i was given a prescription for medication but had no money or shelter at the time. The only thing I can conclude is the forced treatment is meant to make me worse to trap me in a legal medical situation that would be kafkaesque, but any dark humour in that could only be enjoyed by the persecutor. Today I am ambivalent by our national socialist health system in Canada, encouraged by possible access to services but not as a dehumanized example of disorderly individualism in a collectivist, communitarian health system.
I think forced treatment should only be used in cases of being a danger to others or to one’s self.
This happens all the time. I have been involutantarily committed by my partner.
Sometimes through medical services, other times by police.
Police are not the right people to handle those with mental illness. They are the worst.
I came close after the last forced injections to hurting someone, but in all honesty in over 20 years of having sz and being medicated for only 6 I have never hurt anyone.
Based on my own experience forced treatment is not just done when you are a danger to yourself or others. I was forced Haldol shot, simply because I had a disagreement with a nurse. I still don’t agree with that decision.
I later went before a judge and it was decided that I would be given Invega injection against my will. I still was not a danger to myself or others.
However, I believe that the forced Invega treatment got rid of my symptoms and eventually got rid of my delusions. It got me out of psychosis. So, I don’t know. In the end, it ended up being a good thing.
I would never rationalize it’s a good thing. There is a principle to it that prevents me.
i have been forced hospital by mom social worker ambulance and the cops
cops depend on where you are
the cops in my town have mh treatment training so they were ok very nice and did not argue with me they actually talked me down to go with ambulance or my mom-but they followed her to the er
at the same time cops in surrounding towns tackled me to the ground even though i was not resisting
another town actually pulled their gun cause i wouldnt look him in the eyes
mh training should be mandated by all cops imo
as for nurses i think its 50/50 great or horrible
mental health shouldnt involve the police at all. its not a police matter.
I work at a hotel, and I’m often the one in charge of calling the police or not calling the police.
I think it was a couple of weeks ago that there was an obviously psychotic young man walking around, not really approaching or bothering anyone. I and another employee knew what room number his relatives were in. He did approach me to buy a drink, too confused to count change.
An older woman approached me about him as if I was supposed to call the police on him.
I think that is the crux of the situation. Psychotic people scare people, and if someone well-connected complains, the police feel compelled to get involved.
I basically told the woman that the fear she felt was a good instinct to leave the young man alone. I did not call the police. I don’t intend to have some innocent young man’s blood on my hands because some spoiled person can’t accept fear as a helpful instinct.
when you come to a small town like me all they have is police
fire and rescue-ambulance are volunteer and not always there to respond for help
i have found ambulance and fire are just as negative towards mh because they feel like their training is needed else where more important like a heart attack or stroke or other medical needs not dealing with mh
and in ambulances they usually cuff you put you in restraints till you get to the hospital and exaggerate your condition so you get forced treatment
that is just my experience i dont mean to disagree with you
Exactly. Its supposed to but everyone abuses this to no end. Absolute ppower corrupts absolutely. Ive never been a danget to myself or others and been force hosptialized so many times cauae they thought it was good for me. I dont care! Its my right to choose. Pizza is unhealthy but were not gonna start arresting people for eating junk food are we?
They just lie and say your a danger to yourself on the form without any actual reason. And they know theyll never get in trouble for it because theres no accountibility.
That is the supposed criteria, but they apply it to everyone they want to put on a CTO whether they are a danger or not
I think if I were in Canada I’d have to seek treatment on my own which sucks because mentally ill people don’t always have the knowledge to do that. I’ve always had the attitude here in the US, "Yeah, you’d better pay for my medicine if you want me to take that ■■■■you’re lucky!"And I know people who are so sick they can’t make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich so I don’t know if I will ever have to fight for med or I’ll be one of them.
It’s three a.m. and I can’t sleep. BBC world service news is on the radio. The British accents usually put me to sleep, sooo boring! Lol
Once I spat the pills out at the back of the doc’s head.
They had police at the hospital for something else
All off them came in and I tackled them but they ended up forcing me to the floor and injecting me with drugs
I lost my memory of that evening.
The next day I got picked up and taken to a forensic ward
When I got back to the open ward, they told me I had thrown a chair through a glass door window
Better that, than being forced
I sometimes look back and wish I retaliated…
When I was committed in the past I was so caught up in the process that I didn’t know I had recourse. It was listed as a “voluntary” committment, but it wasn’t voluntary. In Oklahoma you have a right to a jury trial of six people, but the chances of a jury rescinding your commitment are slim to none.
It’s a catch 22, if you disagree with, they will say you lack insight and use that against you. That’s what happened at my tribunal.
One time I was in respite care, and they had called the police on this guy. When the police came in this guy had stuck some twisted up aluminum if an electric socket. He offered to shake hands with a policeman, and when the policeman shook hand with him he got a shock. It was funny, but the police didn’t see it that way. They made him stay in his room and take an antipsychotic.
Agreed. This needs to change.