I believe that people aren’t as messed up by drug abuse as they are what they are believing while they are using them. Rational people survive very well while using alcohol and drugs. Irrational people do not.
Rationality is based in the root word of “ratio.” A ratio is two values contrasting or being compared. A rational person is one who has values inside that match outside. An irrational person is someone with values inside that do not match outside, thus when they think and behave, it is “irrational” or “illogical” because it does not match up with the logicality of the reality outside of their minds.
Yes, there is some neural damage, but people with this kind of neural damage are not in mental hospitals.
My parents believe that I used drugs, and then I became mentally ill. They believe that I “burnt out my brain.” They have no idea that I was not a heavy user compared to all others using them around me who many of which have families and jobs if not careers, but none of which ever had a “mental irrationality” so bad that it handicapped them.
I experimented with drugs in my late teens and it did seem to trigger my first psychotic episode. I went on to be diagnosed with sz, whereas the friends I experimented with didn’t become psychotic and are all fine.
I think there has to be an underlying weakness or vulnerablility for people to develop sz after smoking weed or doing whatever. Lets face it, a huge number of people have dabbled with drugs and their mental health is just fine and they live normal lives. I don’t think you can just blame trying drugs.
Lots of alcohol, weed and lsd in my time alive along with other substances. It definitely alters ur view of reality. But it depends on the person on how it changes their view. U have Syd Barretts and Paul McCartneys
Diagnosed schizophrenia age 18 put on stelazine
In mid 20s I had social life and I went out and drank loads of alcohol at weekend mainly
This was in another country
When came back to uk tried new medications and since then I get residual symptoms
I’m wondering if the alcohol consumption made my schizophrenia worse
I’ve drunk about as much alcohol as any normie my age, maybe even a bit less.
I used to smoke a lot of weed, and I was heavily addicted for 4 years.
But I’ve always felt something was wrong with me, and I think I thought I was just self-medicating. It didn’t trigger anything that wasn’t already there, but I do feel like it worsened some symptoms and slowed me down a bit.
Alcohol was my drug of choice, and I believe it played a role in my mental illness. I drank insanely. I think the best outcome of doing drugs and alcohol is that a person gets through it undamaged. I’ve seen a lot of wreckage due to drugs and alcohol, a lot of it done on myself.
There’s a picture of me topless child laughing with others and outgoing and confident and there’s another picture taken a few years later that says “sorry I exist”…
I have taken substances but I was sick as a child with schizophrenia or something so I was already fu####…
The family had shame in it, and I assumed the role of hero, and a hero was something the family desired.
My brother came along, and he fit he role of scape goat. The family was happy to have a scape goat.
My two younger brothers and I did a lot of drinking and drugging.
Actually they did a bit more drinking and drugging than I did. Nevertheless, I was the one who got schizophrenia.
My Grandparents set out to reverse the roles held by my brother and I. He was now supposed to be the hero, and I was supposed to be the scapegoat.
Actually, I have done a heroic job of dealing with schizophrenia, and even he admits he’s done a poor job of managing his career.
We’re all three of us many years from partying and even many years from tobacco.
I know pot did a number on me, never mind that my brothers did more of it than I did.
There were great incentives in my culture to try booze and pot. And when I tried them, my system told me it was very important that I get some more!
The only drug I abused was alcohol. And I only ever got drunk a few times on it. Not at all as much as my friends or peers. But I still got sick. I been having problems with depression and suicidal thoughts since I was 12. Way before I had any alcohol. Then I got problems seeing things that are not there and having odd thoughts about two years ago. Long after I quit abusing alcohol. So, I don’t think it was the alcohol.
I have never done illegal drugs or smoked a cigarette, and have never been much for drinking. However, I got into trouble with prescription drugs a couple of years ago. My own- not buying from someone else. I now have my husband manage my meds, and I only take pills like diazepam as-needed. I get periods where I am tempted, but right now I am okay. It helps not to have access, but I worry about what I will do if anything happens to my husband. He is 13 years older than I and has already had a heart attack.
I was actually trying to use substances to fix myself, but because my logic about what I and others were and the rest of reality was all fallacious, I would only exacerbate a “fantasy high” so to speak. For me for 3 years I was basically “experiencing supernatural” non-sense when I was using substances, and I thought this was fixing things. LOL Then I stuck like that.
I think of the substances kind of like welding rods, and how you weld yourself is what you stick like. If you weld yourself into a sci fi fantasy of some kind, then that is how you’ll see the world, and you’l experience the rest of your life that way. So there are crucial factors involved before taking on the operation on oneself such as…
…the right information about the logic of self and others rather than complete fallacy.
Fabricating a completely fallacious paradigm is very costly.
