@sohare1981 I believe that you can self medicate up to point and be able to mask the symptoms of sz up to a point and in my case until deep in my thirties…but when the positive symptoms really start to show and the negative symptoms wear you down, then there is no stopping the effects of sz on the mind and body.
The people that find this place are the top 1 percent of the one percent.
Yea if you survey people trapped in hospitals,
You may find low IQ.
But you have to be smart to survive in the real world with sz.
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I value intelligence because my father was a brilliant writer and my mother a theatrical producer. IQ can also be reflected by the environment we live in. I laughingly say my IQ lowered 15 points from living in the wrong area in NJ for 23 years, but there might be some truth to the matter. I went to Harvard but now have severe cognitive impairment. You have to be in the top upper percentile in the world to even get into Harvard. I think like an idiot (no offense).
What is IQ for if not to prove someone is superior to someone else?
I appreciate the free and easy exchange of opinion in this forum.
When I was 5 and took an IQ test I scored in the normal range. For fun I took an online one that was supposed to be good a year or so ago and scored relatively good (126). I paid for a detailed analysis and it said my fluid intelligence is higher than my crystallized intelligence by 5 points. On another note, I was told by a psychiatrist you cannot accurately measure the IQ of someone who is psychotic. After all, John Nash’s son, who was a mathematical genius, could not add a column of numbers when he had his first psychotic break. He eventually regained his ability and got a PHD in mathematics.
That I would say is a rather narcissistic use of intelligence. For me it should be about good/great minds being used for the betterment of all, and not the disparaging of those less able.
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So I don’t think the intelligence for those of us suffering from psychotic symptoms is etched in stone. If they came up with a magical pill that treated our negative symptoms better, I bet the intelligence for some of us would expand a great deal.
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Waits for picture of expanding brain…
I don’t consider myself real smart. I am great at puzzles. if i went back to school i think I would major in history. I really love art as well. I can fix cars and helicopters. I loved the Navy while I was in. Miss those loud machines. I learned so much. I am grateful for all my crews that I worked with. I would even teach ground support equipment on weekends. I loved every minute. Now I look at my life and it is different. I can’t believe I made so much in my life.When I see something fly I get excited.I am always hoping the helicopters I see are from one of my two squadrons I worked at. One day I will revisit them and say I accomplished a lot. I was sailor of the quarter and was nominated for sailor of the year. I miss smelling like grease and jet fuel coming home. I don’t care about my IQ I feel I made a difference. Even though I just disappeared off the map with out good byes I know I made my fellow sailors tougher and smarter. I am grateful for my five years in the Navy. If I could have just controlled it a little better I know i would still be there doing what I was great at.
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I’m only good at word puzzles. Shape puzzles , even what most people would consider rather simple ones, are like nuclear physics to me.
I’ve managed to test both very low and very high. Nowadays when I’m asked what my IQ is, I tell people I’m just smart enough to get into trouble. Which is the truth.
10-96
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For me it’s verbal= very high, spatial= very low and the rest probably high average to above average . Most people are more even when it comes to their intellectual abilities.
I wouldn’t say I’m a genius, but I’m not a complete idiot either. (Not trying to mean to those with lower IQ’s). I mean after all I have a Bachelor’s Degree in Health Administration, and a Specialized Associates Degree in computer application and programming. I played a flute from 5th grade until my freshman year in high school (when symptoms first started appearing heavily).
Yet I was in special ED most of my educational years all the way up until my senior year. My problem is I choked on tests. I could know the answers or know how to solve the problems before me but sit me down and say I have an hour to answer x amount of questions my mind freezes and goes blank. As I’m older now I have huge concentration problems. I have to do things short littler burst rather than sit at something and do it all one large sum of time. I.E. Currently I’m still working on one novel and have started the plotting process of a second, but I can only write maybe one two scenes before my concentration gets weaker and I have to step away from it.
I couldn’t mentally handle sitting at a full 8 hour job either. I tried going back to work part time at a grocery store, but I couldn’t handle focusing for my entire shift, and before things got bad I decided to quit.I was the one who also decided to quit my job I held for 3 years before my relapse hit me. I don’t know sometimes I think it’s better to quit than get yourself fired. I know neither are ideal but I’d rather say I’d be the one to walk away than to have someone say I wasn’t good enough.
I even have hard time siting during long movies. I’ve rented Dawn of the Planet of the Apes (I’ve loved planet of the apes, and rise of the planet of the apes)…but I haven’t been able to sit and watch it because of concentration issues. I don’t really think IQ matters when it comes to Schizophrenia, everyone is different, everyone’s symptoms are different…while we may I have auditory hallucination’s those hallucinations vary between each of us. We interpret them differently, it takes different healing techniques between us because our minds aren’t carbon-copies of each other. This is why they can’t find one size fits all cure for this kind of disease.
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