One of my major cognitive issues is with organising and planning . You could say I’m fairly disorganised. Tasks needing a sequence of actions are problematic. I’ve yet to be put on a medication that really helps with this.
However in terms of thought disorder or disorganised speech the only things I can relate to are occasionally losing my train of thought or a slight tendency towards stilted speech. .
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It can be difficult at times to organise my thoughts.If I try to think too much then I can get anxious and overwhelmed .
I tend to lead a rather simple life- eat,drink,sleep,watch tv and internet(forums,check emails, check rss feeds and twitter for articles to post) . The checking rss feeds and twitter requires a narrow, single minded focus rather than sequential thinking hence why it is an easier thing for me to do.
For me when I’m ill it feels almost like I lose control of my thoughts? So for one thing my voices get REALLY LOUD to where it’s hard to ignore them and they talk constantly. And then I get random intrusive and cyclical thoughts that play over and over like a broken record. My head just gets all over the place. Is that disorganized thoughts? It’s very distressing when it gets like that, though thankfully that hasn’t happened in a while.
I’m very disorganized… And my thoughts often hone in on something and run with it until my brain feels it found the end… Example the time crystal news… It immediately jumped to possible uses and I couldn’t stop until it thought of a way to transfer info…the moment you turn it on you should receive messages from yourself in the future…ect… Being able to speak is why I’m having difficulty getting ssdi… They seem to disregard constant hallucinations anxiety and black outs not being stabilized on any meds so far and all of my other documented issues…and are going specifically on my speaking…
I struggle a bit with planning and remembering to do things. I write lists when I need to get many things done or when I need to remember things. But I often forget about the lists.
I have mega disorganized thinking. Planning out the steps needed to complete a task (executive functioning) has been a huge challenge for me in the past. Sarcosine has helped a lot with that. It is mostly noticeable when I have to do things like prepare paperwork or clean the house. Or if I have to do a new task that I haven’t been shown how to do properly yet. It takes a lot of focus for me to accomplish those things.
I struggle a lot with new tasks too. They take a lot of mental energy and leave me very tired afterwards. Even simple tasks are very tiresome if they’re relatively new to me.
I know you say medication didn’t work for you but from what you describe the right antipsychotic could really help you. MY only reference is myself, medication helps me and without it my sx remind me of what you are going through. Maybe when newer, better meds come out you will consider trying those? Like min-101 for example.
I have the poverty of speech thought disorder I feel like it is very deeply entrenched/persistent. Interestingly my executive functioning and organization is average, I just have this terrible inability to put my thoughts into words. it doesn’t feel like the thoughts are disorganized, it feel like they are actually not even there, or like they are being silenced as fast as they are being produced. interestingly in writing (what i am doing now) i am completely fluent, so that reflects that the thought process is still there. i can’t begin to imagine how elaborate i would be if my poverty of speech got better.
This is one of my worst things. The rehab and recovery team tried breaking it down into smaller parts for me but it wasn’t successful.
Of course the mental health services have little idea this is a problem as they rarely come round to the flat. Only time in last 11 years was to come round a give me my depot a couple of years ago.
My step daughter visits every 6 months or so and has a blitz. She has stated her concern on more than one occasion.
All my life I’ve sat in the back row as 2nd in command (so to speak), and never planned a thing in my life. NOTHING.
I just did what I was told by my mom, then my (ex)husband for 25 years, just kind of floated along in the process of life.
Now with a 2nd husband who actually like me to have a voice in what we are doing,where we are going, and my mom who actually needs me to help her (and I’m honored to do so), I find I can’t plan anything if my life were to depend on it. I mean I still have to ask what time I need to be at her house to get her to the Dr’s appointment.
I have yet to plan a real dinner that didn’t include looking in the fridge/pantry for what to fix.
And don’t even ask for any dinner rolls with dinner that are done the same time as dinner.
I never said meds didn’t help me, they did their job. Risperidone took away most of my symptoms entirely. But I had to go off it because it was making my prolactin levels too high…and the other APs I’ve tried were absolutely awful and gave me such severe side effects it was like I was given another mental disorder on top of everything else.
Given that I haven’t had a psychotic episode in over a year now I’m not really motivated to go back on them. Even though I still have symptoms they are manageable as long as I’m not in an episode.
As long as you are able to function and aren’t in distress I suppose whatever you are currently doing is right for you. Your sx do sound pretty discomforting to me though.
It could be depression but if it’s thought disorder then that is typically permanent. If you can write though that’s good, you could always bring a pad and pen with you when you go out and write down how you feel. Steven hawking has to do something similar but he types with his eyelash
I have toyed with the idea that it could be permanent, however i have evidence of the contrary, i had a week long period during a med change when i was completely fluent. i felt amazing, this was in may '16. but then it went away and ever since i have had the thought disorder. @SP2342 and @thekidincahoots have recovered from alogia, for both it took a number of years.
