Thought disorder without disorganized speech?

I cant seem to find any info if this is possible. Maybe im just really unaware of it, but it has never seemed to me that my speech is incoherent. But i definitely have thoughts that race constantly and hardly ever seem to finish one train of thought, like bouncing between subjects or ideas.

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Mine manifests itself as random words, phrases, songs, etc., that pop up as internal voices and/or intrusive thoughts.

I too bounce from idea to idea— sometimes related, sometimes only tangentially so— and speech sometimes feels pressured, or like I just have to get it out.

I do lose my train of thought when this happens, and end up feeling like a complete moron— usually I just try to play it off like, “oh, I forgot what I was gonna say,” but it’s literally as if the thought I had just evaporated into thin air.

ETA: it’s strange that this typically only happens when I speak, not so much during writing. It’s probably due to the fact that writing gives one time to create a point/argument while being able to see everything come together in actual words, and thus creating something that might make a bit more sense, if that makes sense :sweat_smile:.

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I do have that happen sometimes where i cant recall what i was literally just talking/thinking about. But its pretty rare compared to how often my rhoughts get derailed.

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Ah yes, the good ol’ thought deletion, related to thought insertion.

It’s pretty frustrating to have, especially if you’re in the middle of a convo and it just happens.

I can always count on kissing that thought goodbye— it may or may not come back, who knows :rofl: :sob:.

Either way, not sure if insertion/deletion is part of the “disorganized” set of symptoms— but usually (in my case anyways) I find that it only exacerbates my confusion of whether or not it’s an internal voice saying something or what.

Being gaslit by your own illness… Good times.

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Yeah i think its more of a positive symptom. Ill have to talk to my new pdoc about my disorganized thinking and see what they say. I see them tomorrow! First new pdoc since being diagnosed so im a little nervous

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Best of luck to you @Moon!

Hopefully they are understanding and competent in their job, and you’ll get some good treatment options :+1:.

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