Disney's Snow White

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Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs was one of my sister and my favorite movies growing up.

When I got older (teen years),

People would call me Snow White on account of my skin and hair.

(I wore a short bob with no bangs back then)

I loved it and was Snow White for Halloween a lot of years.

Disney is now remaking everything.

Very hit or miss.

Mostly miss.

And it appears this is going to be another disaster.

Lets start with, Snow White has been done to death!

We have so many remakes of that story.

Mostly making Snow White into some badass warrior princess.

Interesting.

The first couple times.

But not Snow White.

I was expecting Disney’s new remake to be more nostalgic and like the 1937 version.

No.

They’re doing a badass Snow White.

I realize all the original Disney Princesses were waiting desperately for their prince and that’s not what little girls or boys should strive for,

But it’s a freaking storybook story!

It’s not sage advice from a trusted source.

Disney,

For the love of any and all gods,

Stop destroying my childhood!!

â– â– â– â– â– â– â– â– .

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Snow White was my favorite film when I was a child as well. I think I watched it over 100 times

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Walt Disney was wholesome, his daughter is wholesome , like him, but the company, now Disney, is all about money, so it’s gone to ■■■■.

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He was something.

I don’t know,

He’s given the green light to some questionable stuff.

He was racist at the very least.

But I agree.

It’s just a money grab now.

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I always said that you look like Snow White @Charles_Foster

I never saw the original Disney classic

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I don’t agree. I think Disney has done a lot to try to establish itself in the aftermath of Disney’s death and it’s really probably a difficult effort to maintain an identity as a corporation. I do agree with Charles Foster that the remakes have been pretty abominable. Nobody needs to see a remake of the classic animations from their youth and we all know the reason why Disney does it because selling a brand new idea is much more difficult than just bringing something to screen for the second time.

Anyway, I think Disney is a really interesting company and I used to think they were evil and I don’t think that anymore. I think the truth is far more complicated than that.

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And why do you think that Disney was racist? I’m just curious because I know that it was a rumor that he was Nazi sympathizer and that’s made up that was debunked. Are you saying the cartoons themselves are racist because of their association with historical blackface theater like all of the early Mickey mouse stuff?

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I think remakes are just a lazy way to repackage old pop culture and films.

The amount of horror remakes that have been done, and are being done is just ridiculous.

There’s plenty of hungry screenwriters out there who probably have some pretty badass screenplays and ideas to be made.

I heard a rumor that they’re going to remake A Clockwork Orange.

Oy vey!

:man_facepalming:

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Disney is kind of censored itself now.

Took out all the racist characters from their movies/cartoons/rides.

They’ve done a good job cleaning up,

But I remember seeing some very racist characters in early cartoons and they had that one ride with the crows?

Was it Splash Mountain?

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If you start a petition trying to stop it,

I’ll sign.

My sister did her senior project for art school on fashion in A Clockwork Orange.

She remade many of the costumes and still has them.

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Yeah it’s sad I agree

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Ya know, a petition is an excellent idea.

And that’s super kickass your sister did her project on A Clockwork Orange.

I bet her costumes look amazing.

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I hate when I hear people complain about race swapping or including people of colour who have been essentially told they can’t join in on a fantasy movie because of their skin colour.

Like it’s a movie about a goddamn wizard and 3 foot gremlin people in wizardland and people are analyzing the “historical accuracy” of it.

And it’s okay that before the princess and the frog like 99% of the main characters were Caucasian? How is that representitive of the world. Like “no you can’t be in a Disney movie about a goddamn fish lady who transforms into human to fight the evil squid lady because your black…” Too much of a stretch of the imagination for the brain dead I guess.

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The problem I have with race swapping is when people call people who are against it racist. That’s cruel and hurts your cause, it’s not racist to point out a double standard and call for original new characters rather than swapping old ones. If whitewashing is bad, and we all seem to agree it is, then so is any colorwashing. Two wrongs never make a right no matter the circumstances.

You can say it isn’t important because it’s fiction, but that’s kind of disrespectful to people who love fiction.

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Are you guys aware of bridgerton?
It kind of deals with this to some extent

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Carnival row had characters of color in it and it made sense quite a bit. They made a world that I think communicated a diverse populace in a meaningful and understandable way.

I agree with @POET . who cares about the the accuracy of a production when children’s minds are at stake. The whole point of bringing characters with color to the screen is to normalize and solidify our unity rather than continuing to subjugate those of color to dealing with fiction that has nothing to do with them.

That being said, it would be great to see productions that involve completely new worlds and characters where it all makes sense where we’re included where the contemporary diversity of our world is represented in our fantasies. Lord of the rings isn’t written that way. It’s based on some proto European Germanic extension and was written after WW1. I see it as tone deaf by contemporary standards.

The real question is not what could have the Lord of the rings movies done instead, but rather why were we even making movies out of Lord of the rings in the first place? Given how bizarre they’re written, I mean the reality is that Lord of the rings doesn’t involve characters of color as a book except for some weird characters that are controlled by sauron. And so far as a land distant to the east or south is considered right? Am I wrong about that?

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Thanks man… I have no problem with historical accuracy. If a movie is a serious historical drama then it makes sense.

Even if it’s a fantasy but set in a historical backdrop that’s fine… I understand the lord of the rings may fall into this category. But how hard is it to make it historically accurate by adapting the writing?

“100s of years ago hobits from the Africa’s, Asia’s etc travelled to this place in Europe because they heard of the rings great power”. The we go we saved the lord of the rings for purists with one single line.

Or maybe we can tell our children “no honey sorry hobbits can’t be black or Asian or Hispanic etc”.

Sorry to rant but I’m not really sorry. It’s very unfair and hurts to be excluded.

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Btw @FreeLunch lunch sorry that wasn’t aimed at you. I just tagged you cause I was saying thanks for your previous comment

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No I I’m trying to agree with you. Maybe I’m not doing it well enough. I don’t know what it feels like to be in your position. I have to acknowledge that.

my only point is that when you adapt a book to film, people are obsessed with the accuracy of the adaptation. So Lord of the rings was a probably a difficult project to work with to make it anything other than what it was in a book already.
And the book is basically exclusionary racist

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What would be good would be new books or books that are based in African myth. Some of my favorite fantasy growing up was written with regards to the traditions of Yoruba and voodoo.

We need writers to be sensitive to the needs of our diverse populous and they aren’t right now for the most part. They certainly haven’t been historically.

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