Where is this factual? If it is factual why are there an estimated 1.2 billion Roman Catholics that believe in him? And other religions believing in their gods?
I myself have been raised and still mostly believe in the Catholic faith. I haven’t been to church in a while but it’s not because of lack of belief in God. I got mad when they closed the church I went to for over 10 years claiming there was poor turn-out, and then re-opened to to Vietnamese Catholic’s only a few months later.
It’s not that I’ve been brainwashed into believing in this. I’ve spent much time on developing my personal relationship with God through mediation and prayer and Catholicism is what I mostly agree with. I just happen to feel that the church itself was created by man in order to control other men, but God is older than man…hence God created man. He knows how I feel about him and I don’t have to sit in a pew every week just to prove it.
I’m not trying to convert you or anything I just don’t see the so called fact that God doesn’t exist because I think he/she/it is there. (I don’t think God has a specific gender it’s beyond what we can understand)…but that’s another discussion in itself.
@Daimon, I think they tie in because when I get supper bad I often turn to prayer for God’s help. Therefore I think it is a positive tie in, praying the Rosary helps, I think because it takes my focus off of the delusions and onto something else.
One time I was super depressed and at the end of my ropes and prayed to God and I swear I saw twinkle of light in the window after my prayers and the mood lifted and I was fine after. I also know more things like about demon’s so I know the hallucinations and voices aren’t demons since they don’t always react to religious intervention like they would if they were really demons.
I’ve had powerful dream like experiences after praying the rosary. I personally think there is something to Catholicism. I think there is more going on with our situation than psychiatry would tell us, but at the same time I don’t think religious dogma should get in the way of understanding it.
I have other ways like asking the voice to actually turn the light on/off (depending on what it is at in the moment) and if the light stays on or stays off I know that it’s not real…the religious things aren’t the only way I decide what is real and what is a hallucination.
I find people’s reactions to this situation shocking. People interpret it so definitely than me. On one hand people have ideas like it is government technology, on the other hand people think they are the exception to schizophrenia and dealing with spirits, and the other hand people think it is all imagined. I personally think it might be the same fundamental mechanism of action behind what we are experiencing, so I am trying to tie us all together, but there is no way I think it is merely hallucinatory. I definitely think this is in part metaphysical.
I think our brains do have a chemical imbalance, but I also think it goes beyond that. I suspect something different about our brains–possibly an illness–is opening a door way to these entities.
I like the voices, I find them relaxing at times and I get to explore many parts of my inner and outer self. I have had obes with them attached to me and can feel their minds inside mine during these trips. I have had astral projections and find their true forms during these experiences. I wish many of you had the same connection to the voices as I do, I feel their ability to understand and to find feelings within themselves and to try to become themselves. I do want to explore them and to help them as much as possible. I think if Daimon has strength inside his mind to try and understand them then he should by all means take the leap, but if this furthers his psychosis then he should not venture down that road. The question is how does this effect you?
When a conscious ness is free from a reality it will take the form that the situation allows. We’re multilinears. Multiple consciousnesses in one. The little consciousness are small and disociated. It is your mind.
I’ve had some very surreal and sophisticated experiences seemingly on a telepathic level that are very engrained in my mind, and there is no way I will ever be convinced it was a hallucination.
Even if the voices stopped and I was like “normal”, I would still be convinced from the mere memory of the experience. I don’t think I am thinking “unclearly” or that my cognition is deficient. It is just such powerful experiences I’ve had.
Does that make sense? I could go on for hours talking about it. I can be very articulate about it, and I can gather an audience of supporters from people who don’t even experience it for themselves.
I have tried that reasoning but you see they can become me. I can for a time allow them to do things by moving just slightly inside myself. When I do this I can find their minds and feel them trying to do these things I already know how to do. I will allow them to cook, help me at work(turn a wrench or make a piece of toast) and experience many other things. When I leave my body in obes I am myself and I am not many consciousnesses of thought all speaking out.
For me the voices have become tame. There quiet. I reasoned with the voices and accepted them. And they accepted my understanding of them as just being my brain. So I have made peace.
Now they either lie dormant for me to talk to at will, or they are just non existent.
I am happy with that. Very content. I have no desire to try and explore that realm.
I love exploring what I see with my eyes like mountains and lakes and rivers and trees.
What I can hear like birds , cars, people, music
I like to taste the sweet taste of sugar in my coffee
I like to feel the hot sand on my feet when I go to the beach.
For me the voices have become tame. There quiet. I reasoned with the voices and accepted them. And they accepted my understanding of them as just being my brain. So I have made peace.
Now they either lie dormant for me to talk to at will, or they are just non existent.
I am happy with that. Very content. I have no desire to try and explore that realm.
I love exploring what I see with my eyes like mountains and lakes and rivers and trees.
What I can hear like birds , cars, people, music
I like to taste the sweet taste of sugar in my coffee
I like to feel the hot sand on my feet when I go to the beach.