China is surpassing the United States

I like some Chinese food, General Tzu chicken is great, I have never been in China, maybe one day I visit, but then there are some many places in the world where I would like to visit.

When I was in America in the 1990s, in 1999 I was invited to participate Henry Kissinger’s Ambassador program in China, I did not go because it would have been 4000 US dollars, now afterwards I think it would have been great to meet Kissinger in China.

I do remember @SzAdmin asking people to be careful about this in the past back when I was a mod. I’ll let him speak on it.

What do you mean by that crack? I’m half Mexican. And I’m not obese. Or even overweight.

Oh, Univision stated awhile back that Mexico has a big obesity problem. Rivaling the United States. I’m sure if you do a google search there will be some information on it. Surprisingly, I googled fattest country in the world awhile back and neither U.S. or Mexico were on the first list. A little odd. But yeah, in Mexico if I remember correctly, the majority of people over 40 are overweight.

Put it this way, it just proves we have some of the best food in the world.

I have no problem with people pointing out countries that violate the rights of their people. Its a big issue.

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I’d say the US more so than Russia … :upside_down_face:

I put all 3 of my kids in Chinese immersion when they started school my son didn’t stick with it but both my daughters did and the oldest does tutoring for college students taking Chinese.

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Can’t read whole topic because it makes me angry. Westerners.
Please keep this site as much international as you can, because we need big communities for support. Thanks.

Now let me say my opinion while I’m calm.
I would never choose to bear with racism, colonialism, wars, manipulations, thefts and so on, if I am able to choose.
But i don’t have that choice, you see… Western countries took that choice from me.
And that’s UNFORGIVABLE.
Your turn now.

Cool beans. I’m not a fan of them, that’s for damn sure.

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I’m happy to be Western.

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History is filled with great nations that go bust. Just 15 or 20 years ago Japan was all set to become the number 1 world power. But then they had some kind of miscalculation or something and people might notice that Japan is not the most powerful nation right now. Power changes, the world is unpredictable. Rumors and experts have predicted for years that China had a good chance of becoming the most powerful nation on earth. It hasn’t happened yet but even if they do, it ain’t going to mean that the U.S. will wither and die and disappear. We may become number two but we will still be powerful, our military will still be one of the best trained, most technologically advanced armies on earth.

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First off I’d like to say that I don’t mind that China will surpass the U.S. When a country has around a billion people, that is potentially a huge work force as @MisterCrowley mentioned in his post. China already produces a huge amount of products that are used around the world, including in the U.S. historically, every empire falls from the top eventually.

Now a little bit of critiques. First, pollution is damaging the environment, China if I remember correctly is among the top 5 countries that causes pollution. It seems at the moment Chinese leadership is more concerned with improving the economy than improving the quality of life. That can be said about nearly every country anyway.

Second, the regulations on factories are very lax. This is tied in with the pollution problem but more importantly, with such a large workforce, it is almost like workers are viewed as expendable as there is always someone willing to do the same job for less. This leads to certain exploitative practices.

Third, the disparity between the rich and the poor is tough to see. From what I’ve read and a few documentaries I’ve seen, sometimes less monetarily fortunate people from the countryside leave their homes because the work in larger cities is more lucrative. From what I understand they are viewed as country bumpkins, meaning they are viewed and treated as less than a “full” citizen in the particular city. Also some of the living conditions require them to be confined to a room about the size of a closet.

Finally, I’ve heard there is a form of a merit system for citizens. The surveillance technology is found in most major cities and even uses facial recognition. The government is near a police state where some opinions viewed as radical can lead people to get jailed or worse.

On a side note, having girls aborted simply to have a male child to carry the family name was pretty bad. Apparently the government was trying to limit the population growth and would allow families only one child per couple. I believe that has since changed thankfully.

With all those critiques, I still do not mind that China will surpass the U.S. here are a few things that I respect.

China is building a strong middle class.

In Chinese culture there is a strong sense of family loyalty (for lack of a better word).

So far China has used their military for “maneuvering” other countries to do their bidding as opposed to outright war. I’ve always felt war should be a last resort or a response to an attack (i.e. Afghanistan) and not a preemptive action.

The Chinese people I have had the pleasure of meeting in college were all hard workers. I’m sure as heck not everyone will be a hard worker but the majority I’ve met are.

Chinese history goes back thousands of years. I’ve read the romanticized historical book Romance of the Three Kingdoms. I respect ancient Chinese culture.

The people I’ve had the pleasure of chatting with online seem a little more open toward American culture than is sometimes portrayed by the media in U.S. not everyone there hates the U.S. heh. Some did however express a slight disdain of government censorship.

Anyway, all in all I just hope that China continues to improve itself and improves the world once they surpass the U.S.

Now with all that said, the reason I responded to tour post in particular is because you used the word “Westerners” to blame us all. You must keep in mind the average person here cannot make a huge difference in the leadership. I think it would be more accurate of you to say, “Western leadership” in your statement. Not all of westerners are war mongering or colonialists. Especially in modern times.

@anon5716216

From my understanding, China does not recognize Taiwan as a country and views its leadership as a renegade state. After decolonization, it is called Chinese Taipei. I think they low key have problems accepting governing laws of the People’s Republic of China much like Hong Kong. These things are slightly under reported nowadays in the U.S. I guess much of that is political though and such a conversation is against the rules.

(They got a taste of democracy and they likeded it. :slightly_smiling_face:)

Hopefully, the Hong Kong protests do not end tragically, the maneuvering over the South China Sea does not become a violent conflict. (Duterte has played both sides.) And everyone lives happily ever after heh.

Viva Mexico!
That is all for now.

(Oops totally forgot to go into the Fentanyl and Opioid problem but eh, pharmaceutical corporations are a worldwide profiteer. At least some medicines actually cure or treat ilness.)

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Lookout! India will surpass China in the year 3000.:wink:

You know more about China than me. But I believe their leadership is sorely lacking when it comes to making civil rights policies. Even today, the mere mention of Tiananmen Square in China can get you thrown in jail.

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I can’t say I know a lot either but you’re right about that.

China could very well out perform or surpass us. That’s the current trend, but I don’t think they will take over the planet per se (I see the big picture guys). I probably shouldn’t even write in this thread. I have nothing against any country or any people or China. I just am afraid to go there. I would have loved to travel and lived there maybe before university, but now I’m scared to leave the country because of what happened to me in college. I think America is best and safest for me. I’m scared about them bringing back mental institutions and rounding up the homeless (seems like fascism in a sense) but I’m hoping my family will stay around long enough so I can get better and heal and take care of me. I’m a content, non-violent person! I stay out of trouble and keep to myself. My dad is leaving me some money so I hope I can use that to stay off the streets. I think society has been declining and will continue to decline unless we get more center-minded or moderate folks into office. I like Trump but don’t agree with everything he says especially about the mentally ill and homeless. The left is terrifying to me in a sense that it will lead to socialism and possibly the end of the economy and the rise of other countries. I’m thinking 50-60% initial taxes on short term trading and 90% taxes on the 1% or even the short term/day traders. I’m just using my past life memories/recall here. I told my mom the other day I used to be a day trader a billion lifetimes ago. I made great money except the taxes were so high I could never be insanely rich.

I think no country should have jurisdiction over reality, except maybe God. That means no computer simulations and bizarre technologies. Time travel has saved our asses more than once but should only be used by governments. That’s my 2 cents.

I wish my English was good enough so I could have my say here on such a complex topic. I usually avoid making a big statement about China or other countries because it involves comprehensive arguments which requires both good thinking skills and excellent language skills.

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It’s okay green5. You’re English is pretty good when it comes to communicating about other things. This topic is a little complex indeed. No country is perfect.

I just want to add that Chinese posters (and posters from any country) who suffer from a mental illness are more than welcome to be part of the schizophrenia.com forums and community. Honestly, this particular topic is a little more on the political spectrum than informational or communicative in regards to mental illness. Maybe we could shift this conversation something a little more relevant to the main forum topic. I’d like to ask the question how is the treatment of people with a mental illness in China? And how are people suffering from such a condition viewed?

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And the “Already Obvious to Everybody” award" goes to 77nick77 in the field of Techtronic’s and having eaten Chinese food about a month ago.

“I’d like to thank the academy and my high school math teacher for making all this possible”. Thank you. “You like me! You really like me!”

China may become the number one superpower on earth but they will not dominate and surpass the U.S. in every field. We will still be the leader in certain fields and equal or superior in some others.

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